User talk:VenusNV

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While I am not a mind-reader, I suspect a few reasons for the block. First, saying that a word is "mispronounced" is not correct. Saying that it is pronounced differently in different regions is more along Wiktionary style. Secondly, adding external links is generally not appreciated here, unless the link is an online version of a respected source. Finally, your previous block by a well-respected editor (Stephen Brown) for inserting incorrect information probably didn't help your case either. I would advise simply adding the pronunciation and nothing else, and you'll have a better shot. If you would like to do this before your two week block expires, feel free to drop me an email requesting unblocking, and I'll talk with Connel and see if we can't work something. Otherwise, you're certainly free to simply contact him directly. A word of caution, however, be polite. Blocked users who scream at Connel and accuse him of being an insane tyrant rarely elicit favourable responses, for obvious reasons. However, if you are polite, recognize which of your actions violated Wiktionary policy, and assert that they will not be repeated, Connel is a very reasonable admin. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 06:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, a quick note about Stephen's block. The reason the information was reverted was that you didn't insert any new information.  The entry already said how residents pronounced it, and how non-residents often pronounce it, with a note that this is an important difference.  Your edit simply said the same thing, but wordier.  Again, bear in mind the fact that there is no "correct" pronunciation, there are simply different regional pronunciations.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 06:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

First, thanks for the welcome and information.

Question: If western states Nevada, Colorado, and Oregon are pronounced different in the eastern states, it is a "regional thing", yet if east-of-the-Mississippi-River states like Illinois are pronounced "Illi-noise" and New Hampshire pronounced "New Hamp-shyre", they would be considered "mispronounced"? Do you see what I'm getting at? I agree that it is a regional thing albeit a very unidirectional regional thing.

--venusNV (cannot use four tildas due to IP/username block)


 * Yes, it is a tricky distinction, similar to how to distinguish a misspelling from an alternative spelling. Unfortunately, there are no hard and fast rules to distinguish these things.  However, I would argue that Illi-noise is not a common pronunciation among educated people in any region, whereas Nevāda might be (I haven't done the research myself, but am taking Stephen at his word, as, like I said earlier, he is a very respected editor).  It's quite possible that Nevada should be a correct pronunciation, with Nevāda marked as incorrect (again, don't really know, I've always pronounced the first a short myself), but edit-warring is not the way to accomplish it.  Perhaps it could be posted in the Tea Room, to get the input of the wider community.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 07:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)