User talk:Vildricianus/Archive2

welcomeip
Hi Connel. If we want to subst: the, we need to take out the bug that causes the ~  to not be "nowiki" at all and be replaced by the poster's signature. See User talk:83.220.193.141. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I have a migraine headache right now and cannot comprehend what you are saying. Perhaps it would be better to change the comments in "welcomeip" and not bother subst:ing this template ever.  What course do you recommend?  --Connel MacKenzie T C 22:37, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Quotation templates
You may want to have a look at Quotations/Templates. &mdash; Vildricianus 10:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * This looks good, and it makes my own minor formatting inconsistencies more obvious. Since this list will be a growing one, my one concern is in whether there is any way to automate the list to reflect the addition of new templates. Eclecticology 21:02, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Automation: certainly, by means of a category. That would however not show the contents of the templates, and for now I'd like to keep the manual list until we are using these templates on a slightly larger scale and until we have more of them. Somewhere in the near future, I'll have the possibility to add more quotations in a consistent and less time-consuming manner than is now the case. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If you're willing to maintain the page, I certainly have no basis for complaint. :-) Eclecticology 21:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

top3, mid3
These templates are not supposed to be coloured, AFAIK. Only top and mid, because of their purpose in the translation section. There are also top2 and mid2, which have the same code as top and mid, except then that they're not coloured. &mdash; Vildricianus 13:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll check out what links there. I don't believe I'm doing any damage by adding the colour, but I'll sample and see.--Richardb 13:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * check the change out on Inflection templates and see if there is any problem for you. I just think the tables look slightly better in colour.--Richardb 13:27, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Checked out quite a few. All look fine, better with the same colour for 3 column tables as for 2 column tables. So, please leave the change in. Thanks --Richardb 13:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

No, these columns are/will be heavily used in =Derived/Related terms= sections, which should not be coloured in order to mark the difference with the =Translations=. This is because either you're interested in translations or you're not, so the colour makes it easy to either skip or focus on this section. Now there's another point of focus in the articles. Perhaps you can create new three-column templates with colours. &mdash; Vildricianus 13:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OK. I can create some others. But, I hate creating more templates than necessary. How about we use a different colour Pale), instead of no colour ?--Richardb 13:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, no more templates than is necessary. I'm at the moment trying to organize this stuff as WT:I2T is insufficient. A different colour than yellow is indeed another option. I let you proceed with that. Perhaps you can use #F8F8FF as they do on de.wiktionary. &mdash; Vildricianus 14:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've already added a note to Template:top - "Note: It is intended that this colour background is used to indicate the translation tables in an entry, for quick and easy indetification of those tables. Please avoid using this colour, and hence this template, for other tables.". And I'll proceed with changing the colour for the top3, mid3 templates.--Richardb 14:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC) - Done--Richardb 14:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I noticed the message; I wonder why I actually hadn't done that before. The new colour looks OK. Could you perhaps also change top2, top4, mid2, mid4? Thanks. &mdash; Vildricianus 14:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Past my bed time ! Got to go. Sorry!--Richardb 14:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Admin
This is just to let you know that you are now an admin. Good luck! Eclecticology 09:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! &mdash; Vildricianus 09:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! I think you've set a speed record for the time from nomination until the time of appointment.  I think that goes a long way towards showing how much your efforts here are appreciated.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Somewhere, I was hoping that. I think it'll be difficult to get rid of me again ;-) &mdash; Vildricianus 17:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!
Hello! Congrats on your adminship! --Dijan 09:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! &mdash; Vildricianus 09:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

No language
Yes, that seems to have fixed it. Thanks! --EncycloPetey 11:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it didn't. Look at the previous version, it'd always be "April". I've reverted. &mdash; Vildricianus 11:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope -- still has problems. Look at the way the page displayes on the entry for beijar. I haven't enough expertise to offer a solution. --EncycloPetey 12:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know either. Either Connel will need to solve it or we'll need to subst: it each time. &mdash; Vildricianus 12:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Language templates
Hi there. Could you perhaps use  Vietnamese:  instead of  :? Thanks. &mdash; Vildricianus 18:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Alright, but is there any reason in particular? I used to see them a lot more, but I'd been away from the English Wiktionary for awhile, so I don't know about any changes in policy here. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) 05:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes there is, mainly in order to facilitate sorting languages by alphabetical order and to not needlessly complicate things for newbie contributors who don't know all these codes. &mdash; Vildricianus 07:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, I figured tools like this were created to eliminate the problem of sorting the language codes. This tool understands lines that begin like . I just figured that using the template would make it easier to find all the words that have Vietnamese translations here, in case that ever becomes necessary. On some other Wiktionaries, such as the Vietnamese and Dutch editions, templates are used for every part of an entry (including the entry headings) for this reason. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) 06:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Enclosing headers into templates eliminates the "edit section" option (try this). All these codes and templates make it very confusing for people who are not used to it. We're trying to remain as user-friendly as possible. And I don't think it's necessary to find all entries that have Vietnamese translations, is it? &mdash; Vildricianus 07:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Huh. I never noticed that edit section issue – probably because the Vietnamese templates use .   It'd be nice if the templated headings worked better though; that way people wouldn't have to manually add categories such as "English nouns" to entries all the time.


 * Having a way to easily find all the Vietnamese translations would make it much easier for Vietnamese speakers to find words that need entries, since there's no way you'd be able to find them all the redlinked Vietnamese words at Special:Wantedpages. In fact, quickly skimming through the 1,000-entry list, I couldn't find any. I suppose it's still possible to Google for the term, though. A user at the Vietnamese Wiktionary converted all the headings and stuff to templates in an effort to assist the WiktionaryZ project.


 * – Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) 06:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The thing with headers in templates is that you'll end up editing the template instead of the page where the template is included. Note also that the part of speech categories are no more to be added for English words.


 * About finding Vietnamese: well, I suppose the best way to go about this is to cruise through Category:1000 English basic words and add translations where necessary. And then create the Vietnamese entries. I guess the 1000 basic words more or less correspond in each language. &mdash; Vildricianus 09:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * About the section edit links: I suppose it does make sense, considering how they're used in w:Template:Current events when transcluded to Current events. It'd be a pain to have to hunt down the particular sections of that template to edit; then again, the page is still a pain because all the edit section links get pushed to the bottom, due to the floating sidebar there. Anyhow, you might be interested in Bug 2795  and Bug 4034  at MediaZilla. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) 10:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

CheatBot
What are you planning to do against the many redirects from plural to singular that are in place? I've deleted some of them, but it seems there are quite a number of them. &mdash; Vildricianus 15:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * . Would your bots be able to override redirects? If not, I have a way to easily identify them. &mdash; Vildricianus 18:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Um, I created this page User talk:Connel MacKenzie/redirects a long time ago. I made it through the plurals redirecting to singular; perhaps some have been reenetered since?
 * I didn't make it through the other sections, as I was going to manually replace those plural entries I'd deleted first. (Actually, I'm not sure where I left off.)
 * The 'bot specifically does not override any existing entry, not even a redirect.
 * What is this new magic you've discovered/invented?
 * --Connel MacKenzie T C 03:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hehe, I dropped .allpagesredirect { text-decoration: line-through } in my monobook.css which strikes out redirects in Allpages. &mdash; Vildricianus 07:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hrm. I reloaded, my .css after doing that, but it no workie.  I need your magic!  --Connel MacKenzie T C 07:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Tested with only what's in your monobook.css, it does work actually. Beware, only in Special:Allpages! &mdash; Vildricianus 07:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hrumph! I need better magic.  Or sleep.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 08:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Headword
You appear to forget the headword from time to time:

Noun
headword
 * 1) Def.

&mdash; Vildricianus 20:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, so that's standard - I thought it was just for phrases and composite words. I'll fix mine up, though I'm frankly curious as to the need for it, since it mimics the article title. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, some peculiarities seem to reappear time and again in questions – this is one of them. It's partly a relic from the time before case-sensivity, but is still retained because that's the line where inflected forms, gender etc. will appear. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 20:39, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

enwreathe
Your "tiny create" was flagged by the #vandalism-en-wt RC monitoring bot, so I looked at the article because I'm really, really bored. --Rory096 07:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

More talk for you
Can I proceed with merging and ? I'd make the former a redirect to the latter; normally this doesn't break parameters. I'll also include some of its features in. &mdash; Vildricianus 11:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. --Connel MacKenzie T C 03:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

PS: I've also deleted this WS:CMK shortcut Wonderfool had made.


 * Thank you. --Connel MacKenzie T C 03:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

rusça
Do you know whether this should be capitalized or not? Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, language names in Turkish (rusça, türkçe, etc.) are not capitalized. Actually, language names are not capitalized in most languages. —Stephen 16:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of all of my images
What do you think your deletion of all of my images has accomplished? I was using those to verify my entries. Does it make you feel important?--Primetime P.S. I take back my apology I gave a while back.
 * Images belong to Commons. Verification is achieved by means of citations, not screenshots. &mdash; Vildricianus 07:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Special:BrokenRedirects
What should we do about this? Isn't there a way to run a bot against this? Or shall we leave them in place until your inflection bots make them work again? &mdash; Vildricianus 15:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, this page is one of the main reasons for doing the 'bots. --Connel MacKenzie T C 16:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Article Requests
You can request articles here. &mdash; Vildricianus 12:30, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * There's a huge backlog on requests! What good will that do? How long is the average wait period?


 * Btw, what does "Payback is hell, Jack!" mean? --68.102.193.78 18:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know sir/madam. I'm not a dictionary but I'll have a look whether I can define it for you. IF it meets our Criteria for inclusion, that is. &mdash; Vildricianus 18:30, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Categories
Good day. Some comments on your use of the AWB. It moved some categories to the bottom of a page, whilst they belonged at the end of the section, e.g. at far. Usually, we have them ordered in their appropriate language section here. Also, what kind of Unicode fixes are those? Beware that we sometimes use different apostrophes than the normal ASCII ones. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 14:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Vild, that isn't quite right, according to this (nor according to the previous discussions I recall on the topic.) A category applies to an entire page, not a section, so to make them easier to find/correct, they are supposed to be at the end (right before interwikis.)
 * The only reason we haven't pursued these corrections in the past, is because we did not have a tool available that would do it. I am delighted that I can scratch this off my "monobook.js" todo list, now that a better solution exists.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 16:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That's something we might want to change then. Suppose an entry with multiple language sections: now I want to edit the Dutch part, so I section-edit. However, I don't want to re-edit the entire page or the last section to track down the Dutch POS category; I'd rather have it in the Dutch section. Reasonable, not? &mdash; Vildricianus 16:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Reasonable yes, but Eclecticology wanted them at the bottom only.  At the time, he may have been more concerned about categories within templates, but I think those concerns have been overcome by events.  (Note: even though categories within templates is still a thorny issue; their popularity and ease of use has outweighed the initial arguments against them.)   --Connel MacKenzie T C 16:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Means that I should put it forward on WT:ELE or WT:BP or not? &mdash; Vildricianus 17:02, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You can certainly make the suggestion on WT:BP. I don't see a big problem with having them correctly at the bottom, especially now that there is a tool (and a willing volunteer) to help standardize the entries in this manner.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

WOTD
I am trying to be cautious when editing this Main Page template. I created long before I knew of the magic word's existence. I do not think that template serves any better in this situation. And not having a passed-in page name is a bug, IMNSHO. --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow. Having broken magic words is almost worse than not having them at all.  I think to work around MediaWiki's but, we should have  which simply does  so that the parameter defaulting doesn't mess up the parameter passing.  Of course, without further testing, this may not work either.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * All this makes me wonder if Brion's refusal to fix the bugs the Gangleri reported is intentional. Is there a security violation somehow, in having this stuff just work?  --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I haven't a clue about Wikimedia internals. Having the links work is priority now, magic words or not. &mdash; Vildricianus 17:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I have the links working for 4/1, 4/10, and 4/11 currently. I'd like to reengineer the entire process to 1) not contain spaces or commas, 2) not cover more than one month.  Until that is further discussed, I don't see much point in continuing messing with the individual templates.  Future entries have a working edit link (for one day, anyhow.)  But I'd like the whole thing overhauled before too long.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. As has been shown today, the current system is too complicated. &mdash; Vildricianus 19:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

mallemaroking
This entry is up for WOTD later this month, but there's some concern about the etymology. I've pulled some information from the 1913 Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal (vol. IX), and entered it onto the Talk:mallemaroking page. However, the text predates the Dutch spelling reforms and my Dutch isn't that strong to begin with. Would you please have a go at translating it? Thanks. --EncycloPetey 21:25, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!
For your fixing of Template:welcomeip. I hadn't thought of such a simple solution ;-). Your changes to Template:rank I've reverted, because they made the box far too spacious. I don't know why that was, though, the code looked fine. &mdash; Vildricianus 10:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll take another look at template:rank; it looked fine in Safari on most pages. What browser are you using? æle ✆ 00:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That's Firefox, but I now also checked in the other main browsers. &mdash; Vildricianus 07:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I checked the old version in Firefox, and I see what you mean by "spacious" now! I've made another version with widths defined in ems, not by percentages — User:Alerante/Scratch. Is this good? æle ✆ 16:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's decent, thanks. You can replace the old one with it, but I don't know how long it'll stand. AFAIK, the Gutenberg rankings will shortly be reordered and will perhaps get a new template. As long as you don't change the pages themselves (a bot will have to be able to remove them again), you're free to do with it as you please. Cheers! &mdash; Vildricianus 17:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Mirrors
I understand that Wiktionary mirrors and forks and such are listed at Wikipedia? Should we keep a list ourselves? . &mdash; Vildricianus 19:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I thought meta: had the list of known mirrors. I have no desire to maintain such a list, at this time.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Template:IPA
I changed the links again. Probably I've messed up something. &mdash; Vildricianus 09:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Redirect?
Huh? What's up with Apsis? &mdash; Vildricianus 15:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That's how it was linked. Some of the earlier (incorrect) deletions do not seem to appear in the various entry history.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 15:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Erm, not quite. It was never deleted.  But it was linked without the lowercase pipe syntax (and the linking I encountered was old.)  We never should have decapitalized - it is still causing problems today.  And as more are entered, I think those problems will continue to increase.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Most recent todo4
I think you should narrow your search (or broaden the exceptions). Many bullet-listed misspellings and citations pop up. Also very well-formatted entries do, like bescherming. Now, I'll first run through all the Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:en before you update. &mdash; Vildricianus 20:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I added a bunch more exceptions last night. I think for future runs though, I'll ignore anything that isn't a heading level line.  That should work better than trying to maintain a list of exceptions.  On the other hand, I did find things that incorrectly has or as a result of doing this "wrong."  So I dunno.  Is a separate "correct" list in order?  --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, some of the results had nothing to do with headers but still deserved some cleanup. Any list with cleanupable entries is fine ;-) &mdash; Vildricianus 20:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Heh. With over 3,000 entries, all I'll say is: knock yourself out!  All help on those lists is appreciated.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:22, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Vildricianus
... for the immediate help on the wiktionary pronunciation request I put in for 'stab' 30 minuutes ago. You are very fast! Also for the 'are you serious' query to me on the pronunciation I am also looking for on the (widely used in Economics textbooks) 'Slutsky', which I trust I answered adequately by just pushing the recreate button. I am new to Wiktionary -- these are my first two edits. (By the way, the request for the pronunciation of 'stab' was made by a colleaque of mine, a PhD grad student in Economics who speaks English as a second language.) Thanks again! —This unsigned comment was added by 129.82.19.60 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 12 April 2006.

More clutter to your popular talk page, as per usual by me
Do you think a link-correcting bot would be feasible: correcting links to uppercase pages where it should be to the lowercase? You know what I mean, installing pipelinks and such. Lazy --> Lazy. Just a random thought of mine. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Have you downloaded the Wikipedia bot framework yet? In conjunction with the latest XML dump, you can run replace.py for each of these you find.  I suppose I could generate a list of words currently linked with first characters uppercase, redlinked, where the lower case entry exists.  Unfortunately, I don't know python well enough to have it figure that out.  It would have to run through the whole XML dump once for each term?  There must be a better way.  Then again, it is a small enough concern right now.  This one should remain shelved for a while.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 21:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, of course, but I was thinking what further cleanup could be arranged when the main tasks are done, say, in about ten years from now, right? :-) Yes, my todo list is large enough right now. And no, I know nought about bots or python or what have you, unfortunately. Cheers! &mdash; Vildricianus 21:24, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Template documentation
Thanks for the info regarding template documentation. I'll move the docs I started, but probably not before Monday, when I get back to my regular computer. Rodasmith 22:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

You may be interested in the discussion at Template talk:en-infl-reg-vowel-e. Rodasmith 17:07, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for the notice. &mdash; Vildricianus 17:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Moved "Flame War" to Draft Policy and elsewhere.
copied from Beer Parlour

First quarter 2006 US vs. UK flamewar Draft Policy I've been brave enough / arrogant enough / stupid enough to propose a DRAFT POLICY. Spelling Variants in Entry Names - Draft Policy I have moved the discussion to the Wiktionary talk:Spelling Variants in Entry Names - Draft Policy. --Richardb 08:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've also set up a Project - Keeping Translations Common and Synchronised Across Different Spellings to carry on the work specific to that area. I'm going to move the relevant discussion to that page and associated discussion page(s).--Richardb 09:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

'''Moved a large chunk of discussion to Wiktionary talk:Spelling Variants in Entry Names - Draft Policy/BP April 2006

Moved a large chunk of discussion to Wiktionary talk:Project - Keeping Translations Common and Synchronised Across Different Spellings/BP April2006</BIG> --Richardb 09:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to cut across what you are doing, but equally well I'm committed to trying to get some policies roganised, and to get you lot thinking a bit more organised. before Beer PArlour becomes completely unmanageable.--Richardb 09:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks. I've been meaning to do some organizing as well. &mdash; Vildricianus 09:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: I'd be best to have the entire discussion as it was before your moving in the BP archives. &mdash; Vildricianus 09:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Really there are two aspects. THe policy, and the work to try to keep translations common. As written, the policy can stand regardless of the success of Connel's idea for the latter.--Richardb 10:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Richard, I'd like to propose a policy, that you never do that! Every time you remove stuff, you compromise the integrity of the archive.  At the very least, copy it to the archive first, then retain the link.  If all of our archived conversations are corrupted in the manner you performed above, it makes it harder to find relevant prior discussion.


 * Every time Ncik or Ec ask me for a link, I search. (Denial of the existence of previous conversations seems to be both of their MOs.)  Their pretending things have not been discussed before is very frustrating, but it is greatly compounded by only the most relevant content being stripped away, lost forever!


 * What you've done to the Beer Parlour is vandalism. Don't ever do that!  You didn't even leave a link!  I mean, holy shit, you didn't even leave a link!  If you compromise the integrity of a simple archive, then you compromise the integrity of all of Wiktionary.


 * --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hehe, I knew your reply was going to be like this. I had told Richard to make sure it got archived correctly, but I got a weird, seemingly irrelevant reply. Don't worry, it'll get in there exactly as it was before today's removal. (I'm dishwashing BP archiving). &mdash; Vildricianus 19:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Glad to see someone is keeping an eye on me, to keep me in check. Restoring those archives is greatly appreciated.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I thought the solution I proposed was a viable solution too. Instead of garnering useful comments though, the concept seems to have been ignored. The last time I saw the conversation, Hippietrail had a counter-proposal to use a similar template trick, to fully reinstate the POV schism. So I don't know...maybe Wiktionarians will continue to insist on keeping it AFU.

Then again, maybe Hippietrail was mired in the technical details of the template, and wasn't considering the NPOV vs. POV issue at all. Hard to guess. I'm pretty discouraged with the whole situation right now.

--Connel MacKenzie T C 19:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem either, the issue is left cold for hardly a week now. Give it some time, it's a quite radical change (or perhaps not, whatever), and it'll need some time to settle. When I'm done with the webster pages, I'm going to tackle some of the (currently) low-profile entries like rancour/rancor, rigour/rigor and so forth, with your system, then move up towards some more complex stuff. &mdash; Vildricianus 19:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow. --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * FWIW, the relevant Wikipedia pages are useful on this topic now. A year ago was about the last time I checked, and they seemed useless then...I guess these pages have undergone tremendous reworking in that time.  We used to have a policy specifically prohibiting traversing such lists to assert one POV spelling over the other, but it seems Ncik and others have gone ahead with the UKisms despite that policy.  It seems that the main page American and British English differences was traversed, filling entries in here, in order of appearance on that page.  It certainly looks to me like a certain amount of UKism impropriety.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 09:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, added to list of things to consider. Please note further things you find on my talk page, as the following months, I won't have the time to check all pages. Cheers. &mdash;Vildricianus 18:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Connel. Came looking for how you were progressing with Project - Keeping Translations Common and Synchronised Across Different Spellings, but found nothing, so came looking here. As V says, sounds a good idea to me, so I'd like to see you make progress with it.  (No idea where Hippietrail's stuff is even)  --Richardb 09:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC) added emphasis --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:05, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

But, as to stripping archives etc. I try to do the best I can in taking the pages and pages of stuff out of BP to put into some sensible spot, so that when someone new to the discussion can find out what has gone before relatively easily. Sorry if I stuffed up a bit. But, boy, can I ask you to try setting up project and discussion pages earlier for this in-depth stuff. Point is, people should not have to look everywhere for the past discussion, or keep their own index. It should not be splattered all over Beer Parlour archives. It should be in one logical place, where any one can find it easily. I'll promise to be more careful. But, can you try to be a bit more organised in this one respect. Please.--Richardb 09:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * And it will be easier to counter any denial of previous conversation. It is all too easy for someone to subtly delete a little bit of inconvenient stuff out of Beer PArlour (which is so fast changing, and few people check the history of) without anyone noticing (which I feel sure has happened occasionally). Harder in a specific project page, where the history is probably more closely checked.--Richardb 09:35, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Um, I check the Beer parlour only by its history, to see what has been posted since my last checking. &mdash; Vildricianus 09:49, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I assert that the Beer Parlour is the most central place for people to keep an eye on. --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:05, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Discipline-specific Request for Assistance
Is there any way to search Wiktionary User Pages for folks who have identified themselves to have specific expertise in specific fields? I'm wondering as it would be helpful to have someone with a background in Economics review the "Slutsky" page and the 'rfv' you put on it.
 * I don't know anyone with a specific economic background here. You may want to try at Wikipedia, where I think the term belongs. I think you'll need to provide evidence from printed sources in order to get it verified here. We try not to include material that is purely encyclopedic. &mdash; Vildricianus 08:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

block Pce3@ij.net/209.216.92.232
Hi,

I got a mail from the above mentioned user that he'd been blocked. Claiming you blocked him altho he did usefull work, do you want me to forward his mail to you? (I can't really help the guy, I just develop software :)) 81.243.70.131 13:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC) (try me on nl-wikipedia or en-wikipedia as henna)


 * Yes, please forward the mail. &mdash; Vildricianus 13:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * mm, an emailadres for you would be helpfull in that case, if you don't want it online, henna@wikipedia.be works to reach me Henna 13:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah yes; the mediawiki email feature doesn't help to forward. &mdash; Vildricianus 13:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * found the mediawiki one finally, forwarded. Btw, you do know that there's a new Vandalfighter? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:Henna/VF Henna 13:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Yes I do, but I find that the interface has become a bit too spacious for my 800x600 resolution. I'll stick with the 3.3 for now. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 13:44, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I have unblocked this IP address. The page Why Wiktionary is not so great is a valid page that has been linked from Why Wiktionary is so great for nearly a year.  The comments that he put on the page may have been erroneous or newbie-ish, but I see nothing malicious or vandalistic about them.  Some previous comments on that page were suspect but they came from other users.  The page is being unprotected blank, and the notice removed. Eclecticology 00:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I had already unblocked him. I found that page highly suspect, also given the previous edits to it. Thanks for the explanation. &mdash; Vildricianus 12:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

spamming
Sinds wanneer is het beleefd wijzen op de tamelijk beledigende en discriminerende aard van een aantal Engelse uitdrukkingen spamming? nl:Gebruiker:Jcwf
 * 1) This is the English Wiktionary, talk goes in English.
 * 2) You appeared to be "spamming" all talk pages of those entries. And I didn't consider your comments very constructive. &mdash; Vildricianus 18:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

US Spelling
Hey, I'm a sysop at Commons as well as a volunteer for Wikimedia Foundation and was reviewing some of your recent admin actions. Was curious why you deleted the US spelling of tranquility (See deletion log). Does Wiktionary have a policy on not accepting any commonly used US spellings? Bastique &mdash; talk to me 22:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It was a redirect to the other spelling variant, which is not acceptable indeed. All versions get a complete entry here, regardless of which standard they belong to. Usually I don't delete existing redirects without replacing them with a proper entry, but this one was created recently while I was watching RC and I forgot about it. &mdash; Vildricianus 12:52, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Got it...so there's not a UK Spelling Cabal? Goood.  Bastique &mdash; talk to me  18:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing serious. It's always something I do when we receive a user complaint that they've been blocked unfairly with a sysop with whom I'm unfamiliar, to see if there is a pattern of administrative abuse.
 * Obvsiously, no explanation was necessary. Bastique &mdash; talk to me  15:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

snick or snee
This one caught my interest today. It would be nice if you could run your eye over the etymology for me.... Widsith 09:05, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting one, indeed. Seems to be correct, apart from snee being a noun, meaning "a cut". Could it be then that the snick is also from the noun steek, instead of from the verb? Or perhaps both are from verbs? &mdash; Vildricianus 14:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Formatting of devanagari character entries
Hi, I left a response and request on my talk page to keep it all together. Thanks. - Taxman 20:03, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Revamping WT:BP
Since this discussion is about WT:BP, doesn't it belong on Wiktionary talk:Beer parlour? Rodasmith 20:07, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It does, but a major change like this should be viewed by all, I think. &mdash; Vildricianus 16:59, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Wiktionary talk:Beer parlour is on the watchlist of everyone who watches Beer parlour, so posts to each location have the same audience, right? (Posting here since I loathe the length of WT:BP. Let me know if you would rather I post on WT:BP.) Rodasmith 17:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't have the Beer parlour in my watch list. Some people don't have anything in their watchlist here, and merely read the Beer parlour. I still think this should be kept there for a while to draw attention. Once more specific things are to be discussed, it can be moved (which is, according to me, how the majority of BP-discussions should be treated - alas, this only happens in rare instances). &mdash; Vildricianus 17:15, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OK. BTW, the length and disorganization of BP and the resulting tendency of editors not to keep it in their watch list somewhat explains the low participation in the use-mention orthography vote. Peace. Rodasmith 17:59, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I know. Which is, obviously, why I want to change it! Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 18:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't use my watchlist for anything anymore. After a couple thousand entries, it isn't usable.  I do know that comments made on that talk page of discussion pages here usually go unnoticed for months.  I think talk:WT:BP, talk:WT:TR, talk:WT:RFV, etc. should redirect to the main respective discussion page to avoid that problem.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we can make them usable again by including all of them on some "main talk page" - a single page to read all comments on (similar to the proposed "main Beer parlour page"). &mdash; Vildricianus 18:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you, Vildricianus for welcoming me to the Wiktionary project.

Be warned! You are now officially on my English Wiktionary support list, though i'll try to bother you only when i find no alternative.

I'm currently working on compiling a useful list of Wiktionary links on my User page.

May you raise upright children and never suffer from severe ear ache,

Itay 10:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hehe, thanks. I've seen your list, good job. There's much to do here on the organizational front, and I understand it's not easy for newcomers to find their way through the maze. It's good to see your interest in all this. If you find mistakes or incomplete pages, be bold in updating them! Enjoy your time here. &mdash; Vildricianus 10:58, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Organizing
Good job working out these policies, we do need them. Yet, a stupid comment of mine: could you perhaps make the titles of Wiktionary: pages a bit shorter? Eg. Disambiguation in layout - Policy Think Tank could easily do without the " - Policy Think Tank". This may sound like a trivial matter, but I get confused by these long titles, especially by the dashes in them. (I also often fail to find them back because of this reason.) Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 11:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation in layout is the name of the Policy. Policy is a necessary tag to differenetiate it from any odd page. We coulddrop te Think Tank bit. Feel free, but I'm off to bed!--Richardb 12:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow!
Uhm, Yes, I accept nomination. It's a bit unexpected. - Amgine/talk 17:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Illustrations
Thanks for the welcome. I've been editing Wikipedia and Commons for a few months, so I'm still learning my way around. I made a "test" edit to the Wiktionary, here: whirligig, so that I might follow up with a question. Is it appropriate to provide simple illustrations for Wiktionary articles such as the one I provided in my test? I am a photographer, and I've been loading my photos into the Commons bit by bit, and I thought it might be nice to make the most of them. Personally, I think an illustrated dictionary would be nice. However, I'm keen to follow policy and practice. Please let me know. Rklawton 20:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Pictures seems to have answered my question. If you would like to add to the the information it provided, please feel free to do so.  As per above, I'm uploading my images to the Commons and just want to make good use of them.  Cheers.  Rklawton 20:22, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Up to now, I don't think anyone has set adding illustrations as one of their goals. Personally, I would encourage it (I even think it's great to see someone finally doing this), and I think the majority of Wiktionarians would agree, but if you're going to add a lot, prepare to stir up some discussion! Enjoy your time here. &mdash; Vildricianus 20:27, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've added a few more photos to test the waters. If you have time, could you check them out and let me know if I'm making any mistakes?  It's easier for me to fix a dozen edits than a hundred.  I've got the relevant articles linked on my user page.  Thanks!  Rklawton 04:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice set of pics, I must say. I see no big problems, actually. The left alignment (pigeon and chapel) won't work I think, but apart from that, it's nice. Layout is, after all, always changing here, so in those instances where it overlaps other boxes, a small tweak can fix. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 15:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

How old are you
Are you sure the Russian is right? I thought it was something like "сколько у вас лет?" &mdash; Vildricianus 21:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm. Not sure. I removed my translation, because you're right that "сколько у вас [тебе] лет?" sounds more natural. Darn. I thought I had that one. Rodasmith 21:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Fixed. "сколько вам [or тебе] лет?" Rodasmith 21:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, a dative. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Spelling
Does Wiktionary support phonetic searches for folks who can't spel? If not, would it be useful to add redirects for common misspellings to the correct spelling? Personally, I'd rather hold out for phonetic searches because that requires the labor of only one programmer. Variations of the Soundex function would work well for this. Cheers! Rklawton 00:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The English Wiktionary does not permit redirects for misspellings. The SOUNDEX lookup feature is something I'm fond of, but the MediaWiki developers either are not, or haven't had the time to implement it yet.  Note also that SOUNDEX is best used only for English terms, while here on Wiktionary we include all languages.


 * The MediaWiki engine was recently enhanced to use a Lucene search (when pressing the [Search] button instead of [Go].) Beyond that, there has not been much activity since it was last discussed.  The proposal from several months ago, was to tag all Wiktionary entries with their SOUNDEX hash, so that the search function could simply search on the SOUNDEX value if no match was found.  The 'bot required to do that (to every entry here) is no small effort, nor is the Javascript coding to finagle the secondary searching.  So, no resources have been directed toward that effort at this time.


 * Also of note, there are several others besides SOUNDEX that are possibly better suited here, for multilingual coverage. --Connel MacKenzie T C 01:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Very interesting, thanks! Also, would you e-mail me the names (or even code) for the multi-lingual tools?  Can you tell me more about them?  This is one of my areas of interest.  I do a lot of data-work in English and have done so in Spanish and Italian in the past.  Rklawton 04:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

wikpedia
Wildrick Steele

There is a need to use the talk page for this article to verify or refute the alleged malicious nature of this site.

Since you did not check out a Wiktionary Project Page before deleting it and then blocking my access I am posting this note to you so that you can join the discussion in the Tea Room under the topic of Escape and become fully aware and informed of the need to use the talk page in order to allow the REDIREDT in the article proper to be maintained for the time being.

There may also be other information which you are not aware of in order to be fully informed so as to prevent the status of the Wikimedia Foundation with the State of Florida from coming to an untimely end.

Any questions you have you may direct them to me.

Patrick Eberhart

Pce3@ij.net 15:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * We do not discuss websites on our talk pages. And I do follow your posting spree in the Tea room, but would rather not spend my time commenting there. Nor do I have any questions for you. &mdash; Vildricianus 15:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Your refusal to cooperate has been duly noted in addition to your relationship with Connel.

Have a great day.

Pce3@ij.net 16:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Template names
It is Wiktionary convention to start template names in lowercase, whenever possible. This was one result of the untimely de-capitalization. --Connel MacKenzie T C 21:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you going to start moving all the existing uppercase ones or shall I? &mdash; Vildricianus 10:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

JS button
Coolness, my latest button produces the following, with cursor focus on "Part of speech":

Part of speech
  This can be expanded to fully cover all preload templates, or more. &mdash; Vildricianus 16:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I am against this in principle. The templates:new_en_* should bear the brunt of the Ncik formatting wars.  Obfuscating my activities to be exactly in the format *I* prefer would probably be viewed negatively.  (Note that for 'bot activities, I don't have the same flexibility, as the subst: iterations are not possible; all the inflection transformations must be done beforehand.)  --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok then, whatever. This will be for personal use then. &mdash; Vildricianus 19:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

candy
Another for your list of US/UK isms that need combined translations. --Connel MacKenzie T C 22:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've no idea here what the differences across the pond are. &mdash; Vildricianus 10:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the BP topic and my talk page; Richard had archived a conversation that was still semi-active and far from concluded. You replied to my response.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 03:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * In the UK, they are called sweets, while in the US, they are called candy. The term "sweets" is sometimes used in the US to refer to all desserts collectively, while in the UK I think this refers to what we in the US call hard candy.  Actually, candy in the US also refers to chocolate bars, while sweets can mean anything containing sugar, including ice cream.  The term "sweets" in the US is very rare.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 06:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * In Australia, we use the term lolly (countable) for candy. Sweets, or much less commonly just sweet means dessert. You will hear sweets used as a synonym for lollies but this will sound a bit British to many people. Candy sounds both very American and like the name of a stripper or hooker in a movie and we wouldn't use it. Even cotton candy goes by another name here. You might hear candy cane at Christmas time. &mdash; Hippietrail 16:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Bot changes
Hi. Could you please use one of your bot accounts (DblRedirBot, for example) to do these changes? Thanks. &mdash; Vildricianus 18:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sounds perfectly reasonable. This one-time run is a sort of redirect, so that makes sense.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

hide/show template on Beer parlour
Hi I think these things are great but on this XP machine with Explorer at least, the hide/show button is superimposed right over the edit button. You might want to try to find a way to fix that. &mdash; Hippietrail 20:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi. Did you clear your cache? I changed MediaWiki:Monobook.css to fix that. Looks fine here. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 20:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it works great now! &mdash; Hippietrail 18:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
Hi there. Obvious entries to delete can also be tagged with, which adds them to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. Use when you're not 100% certain. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OK. I wondered whether Wiktionary had speedy deletion. Thanks for the info! Rodasmith 21:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

More fancy features
I've been too busy again &mdash; do you think what I've done at foam is useful? IIRC, you've been experimenting with the hide/show thingy as well, right? Anyway, it's useful in the first two BP sections. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 20:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I helped Shibo copy his experiment here from zh:. The response on WT:BP was, as you can expect, stunningly inconclusive.


 * When I first loaded foam just now, the translations/verb's [show] and [edit] marks on the right were on top of each other. Now they aren't, but I didn't think I changed anything related to that section.  --Connel MacKenzie T C 23:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I modified MediaWiki:Monobook.css for that, so if you didn't reload your cache, the links overlapped. &mdash; Vildricianus 07:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. On WT:BP the show/hide makes the total d/l speed slower (since all monobook.js and .css get loaded with every page.)  Wasn't one theory about the BP's current state of affairs that the load time should be reduced?  --Connel MacKenzie T C 07:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but it has nothing to do with the BP revamping actually. Evaluative test only. &mdash; Vildricianus 07:53, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Vildric
Hey Wild Rick of One Anus. Just to say that we greatly appreciate you busting your guts out on here. You're doing an awesome proactive job (with your help, and others, soon maybe I'll even use this site as an actual reference site as opposed to for procrastinating). However, maybe you would benefit from a holiday, this much time on any unpaid project can't be healthy for you. If you fancy coming to Wales for a 2-day boating trip in June then let me know! I may pop in and say hi on our IRC channel in a few weeks time. --Dangherous 18:30, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Dang; thanks a lot. So you finally figured out the logic behind my username :-). I'm afraid I won't have any time in June, there will be some exams going on that time (let's hope you won't see me here too much then). Nevertheless, sojourning in Wales is indeed on my todo list, how did you find that out? See you then! &mdash; Vildricianus 18:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

"Character encoding" templates
Hi there. Was it you who made these templates? Nice work but I have a bit of bad news. They actually have nothing to do with encodings )-: What they do is set a font that works for a certain script (also known as writing system. The idea is a good one but the name is sadly wrong and misleading. I think out of "Font templates" and "Script templates" that the latter is most fitting and accurate. I can imagine font template could also be used for other things.

Sorry again. Keep up the good work! &mdash; Hippietrail 23:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You mean the category? No prob, changing the name takes 0.5 seconds :-) The template categorizing I've been doing is still preliminary work and probably needs more refining. The FOOchar templates are now in Category:Script templates and the ones that set fonts or font size in a subcategory. &mdash; Vildricianus 08:25, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Thanks for the welcome at my IP address; sometimes I'm lazy and/or impatient and make edits without logging in first. But I'm Badagnani 00:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the welcome.
Hi. I just came back here and read your message to me. Thanks for the formal welcome. By the way, I am the anonymous user with the IP 70.249.61.170, in case you wondered.

Sorry to take so long. I don't come here a lot, mostly just Wikipedia, but I do visit sometimes. Last time I was here, I searched that word, noticed that it's past tense wasn't in, and figured "Hey, why not?" and stuck in the definition.

Once again, thanks for the formal welcome. =)

--The Digital Pioneer 04:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

WOTD
''Right, this reminds me of it. I'm going to take it on right now, so what do you think? There's going to be 366 pages, but it'd be a bit silly to make all new ones while there are some months of them already done. Can I start moving the existing pages of the format Word of the day/July 29, 2024 to Word of the day/July 29, adapting all links? That's phase 1 then. Following is the semi-protection of all 366 pages, while you or anyone can move the past WOTDs to archives. How does that sound?'' &mdash; Vildricianus 11:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Make the proposal on the WOTD Talk Page. There's some on-going discussion there. I'm not particularly concerned about the mechanism specifics, as long as the day-to-day operations run smoothly. Just make sure the next day will come up automatically. --EncycloPetey 11:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yup, I'm moving right now. Please tell me if I've overlooked something or if you see a bug. &mdash; Vildricianus 11:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I don't know enough about the coding to spot a bug. We'll have to wait until the change-over tomorrow to see if it works. Connel might be able to spot a bug, though. --EncycloPetey 11:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 11:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Your deletion of "Wikpedia" from the Protologism Project Page
I've warned you about deleting entries from Project Pages or the pages themselves. If you were 35 years old or older I might consider your antics to qualify as those of a Thought Police but since you are only 20 years old and have only become a sysop in the current month of April I consider your antics up to this point to be those of merely an irresponsible child who enjoys playing with new power and learning its bounds. To date your antics have resulted in a copy of the Wikipedia Foundation bylaws being mailed to me by the Pinellas County Legislative Delegation. This will inform you that regardless of whether your childish rookie sysop vandalism persists a full examination of the Wikimedia Foundation bylaws will be made and the resulting findings provided to the Delegation in due course. I suggest you not risk violating those bylaws by practicing further sysop vandalism.

Pce3@ij.net 12:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

If you must respond anonymously by leaving derogatory messages on my user page instead of here please be so kind as to leave them on my user talk page...

Pce3@ij.net 08:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Request for programming (yet another)

 * Hi there. Can you detect redirects that have extra, invisible text after the redirect pagename? See ipomoea as an example. SemperBlotto 16:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * One-timer run done at User talk:Connel MacKenzie/badredirects. --Connel MacKenzie T C 13:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, (low priority) instances of / in other sections than the translations. &mdash; Vildricianus 16:24, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Connel MacKenzie T C 13:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * More to do: find Talk pages that have no corresponding articles, which are therefore usually crap. &mdash;Vildricianus 21:26, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * User talk:Connel MacKenzie/orphaned talk pages. --Connel MacKenzie T C 22:10, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You might want to start with Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:rfvResult as these dudes should be deleted - the "archive" of the RFV conversation is now kept in WT:RFVA instead, unless it was merely a failed sense. --Connel MacKenzie T C 22:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

WOTD
Could you give some feedback on today's moving and changing of mine? I've split out the WOTD pages into archives and recyclable pages (to be protected). I guess the majority of links and tricks are fixed, but there'll probably be something I've overlooked. There's also a host of redirects but I've waited to delete these. Do you have an idea to keep an overview on these "recycled pages"? &mdash; Vildricianus 15:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I can't stop bugging you about it :-) How the heck do I automatically pull up a link to the templates themselves on Word of the day/Recycled pages/May, like I manually did in the first two headers? Right now has <tt> [ edit] </tt>, but that doesn't work of course. PAGENAME doesn't either. &mdash;Vildricianus 10:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Persian language pages
Hi there. The dictionary link there is an unknown dictionary. I explained that Aryanpour is the most famous English-Persian dictionary. I don't understand why you insist on having a dictionary which has probably a low quality. Second, the word Farsi has been banned by academy of persian language and literature. The word is not used in academia. --Mehran Kashi20:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You should probably address this issue, if you feel it is one, in the Tea room, where more people can see it. Various regular contributors here have different views on that, but I can't recall a discussion on that. &mdash; Vildricianus 20:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * OK. I will. Thanks. I could not find any previous disscusion in the archives. I doubt there exist any controversies on this issue and my proposal for a standard dictionary (instead of an unknown one). But I will write something in the tea room tommorrow morning. Good night and thanks again. --User:Mehran Kashi20:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Archaic
Informative: we have a whole bunch of useful templates for such things that automatically add categories. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I didn't know where to look for those templates, so thanks for the pointer to that category. I did happen to know about, so I used . Should I not have used  ? Rodasmith 21:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Actually, I can't think of any main namespace template that is subst:'ed here. BTW the category is new since yesterday :-) &mdash; Vildricianus 21:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

overmoed
Hi there. Can you tell me if overmoed is a word in Dutch? And if so, what does it mean – and if not, how would you interpret the word if you saw it? The reason I ask is that there is a famous word in Old English (ofermōd) which no one is entirely sure how to translate (it is only attested once). I know German Übermut means ‘high spirits’, and I was curious about what the Dutch equivalent might be. Thanks! Widsith 17:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Absolutely; it means "overconfidence", more or less the same as the German noun. I'd say that it's a contraction of over and moed ("courage"), but seeing that there's this OE cognate makes it more interesting. &mdash; Vildricianus 17:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Wonderful! Thanks a lot.  Mōd certainly could mean ‘confidence’ in OE, but it could mean a lot of other things as well!  (It's the ancestor of English mood.)  Widsith 17:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

FAQ help
Hi and thanks for answering my question on Connel's talk page!

From time to time things come up which some of us here deal with, but not the majority. Like the CSS and Javascript customisations, and also like the script templates - which can also use CSS.

Probably best is if you know about these topics, add them and then point me to them to check for you. If you don't know what I'm talking about I'll try to find talk pages for you or describe them myself so you can FAQ-ize them and again I'll check them. My brain is too chaotic to patiently sit and write documentation and stuff myself (-:

Thanks again, don't hesitate to ask my any questions. &mdash; Hippietrail 21:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm, yes, it seems you're a bit chaotic: I posted on your talk page, not Connel's :-). I don't fully understand your post here, but it's getting late, so I'll reread it tomorrow. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 21:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh well sorry. Too many long bus trips, lugging heavy backpacks, and granitas de café (-: Also, feel free to email me if that's more convenient. You can do that via my talk page. &mdash; Hippietrail 01:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Months and Days
Hi, Vildricianus. Would you mind having a look at the Appendices for Appendix:Months of the Year and Appendix:Days of the Week and be sure that both pages include the appropriate NL entries? Also, some of these basic entries may be missing from Wiktionary. Kappa has already helped to created the Korean ones, and I'll be looking for others to help in additional languages. Thanks for whatever help you can provide. --EncycloPetey 09:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd already noticed it; nice pages. Would you mind me putting them in some visual table? Days of the week are ok. I'll add the Dutch months when I'm back. Cheers. &mdash; Vildricianus 09:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean. Both pages are organized as tables already. --EncycloPetey 09:43, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I meant giving them a border or so, so that it's a bit easier to read them when they're bigger. &mdash; Vildricianus 09:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If you have some specific idea about what would help, then BE BOLD. --EncycloPetey 09:48, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your Welcome! --<font color="#ff5500">Klaudiu <font color="#0055ff">Mihăilă Message 12:51, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

# not *
Thanks for reminding me. Wietsezuyderwijk 22:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)