Wiktionary:Information desk/2018/June

How do I bring in a definition from KANJIDICT?
KANJIDICT is an online project with a creative commons license which allows copying with attribution. I wish to copy their translations for the (heretofore undefined) kanji 敢 From what I can tell from the help pages Wiktionary is fine with direct copying from public domain material and I have no reason to believe there would be a problem with direct importation from this resource either (though it has a creative commons license and is not public domain). For this project I believe a citation in a References section nested under the language would be sufficient. Does this work with the Wiktionary policy too? Bhbuehler (talk) 05:44, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * IANAL, but my understanding is that attribution, ideally with a link, in a References section or even just the edit summary, should suffice for that license. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 11:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you Μετάknowledge. You don't need to be a lawyer 😀. Copying something verbatim makes me feel uneasy (even with attribution and the correct license) so I needed a second opinion. Bhbuehler (talk) 05:03, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

In case anyone else needs this information in the future, there is also a KANJIDIC template which automatically puts a reference to the project in the appropriate place. Unfortunately it doesn't have a spot for the Heisig 6th edition number. (Only the old editions.) Bhbuehler (talk) 07:18, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * , who edited that template most recently, might be able to help. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 08:33, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I want information about RAAH BABA. Its a puja which is done in Bihar its a very good puja
Please upload information about RAAH BABA. Its a puja which is done all over BIHAR. I request you to please prove whole story or big information on Raah Baba.


 * Wrong place. Please make your request at w:Wikipedia:Requested articles and hi:w:विकिपीडिया:अनुरोधित लेख. —Stephen (Talk) 23:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Wrong place. Please make your request at w:Wikipedia:Requested articles and hi:w:विकिपीडिया:अनुरोधित लेख. —Stephen (Talk) 23:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Newbie question: How do I find the code for a template?
If I go to a template page and click edit, there's no code. I'm trying to find the code for Template:zu-IPA.

Smashhoof2 (talk) 04:41, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * When you see #invoke that means there's a Lua module being used, in this case Module:zu-IPA. DTLHS (talk) 04:43, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Temporary user rights
Is there such a thing as giving a user special rights for a limited amount of time (like 48 hours)? I think I've seen it on Wikipedia before. (I need to move a bunch of entries to fix an orthography thing, and it would be nice to not leave a ton of redirects the poor admins have to delete). No worries if admin rights are restricted to admins only :-) — Julia ☺ ☆ • formerly Gormflaith • 00:23, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * From a technical perspective, it's easy to grant someone a userright briefly. Policy-wise, I also don't think it's a big deal. My concern is that you may be a little off on what your task is in this particular instance: it's okay to have alternate orthographies or spellings (e.g. yogurt and yoghurt or Bahai, Baha'i and Bahá'í). Can you give me an idea of what you have in mind? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:30, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Moving all verb that end with "n" in Category:Alemannic German verbs (that don't have another language on the page of course). I've created 100% of them. The "silent n" is not used outside of dictionaries, and is only there to show a historical connection to Middle High German forms. See this discussion on my user page for more details. — Julia ☺ ☆ • formerly Gormflaith • 00:37, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, well this seems very sensible then. Meine Deutsche nicht ist gut, so I'm not qualified to say anything about whether or not High Alemannic infinitives ended in -n, so if other knowledgeable contributors agree and you made the pages in the first place, it seems reasonable to me. en.wp has a  role that we don't have here which allows you to move a page without creating a redirect (i.e. you can delete a page when doing a move), so the only options I see are 1.) having a bot with admin abilities do it or 2.) having a bureaucrat give you admin privileges for 48 hours (which again, is a totally doable thing). —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:42, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Honestly admin rights would be easier, because as I go through I can check WhatLinksHere, fix those, and I want to add a template as I go through. I probably will be done by like 04:00 UTC tonight or if not 14:00 (tomorrow morning for me), so you or someone else can take it away then. — Julia ☺ ☆ • formerly Gormflaith • 01:04, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm an admin but not a bureaucrat. That's a user access level I cannot grant. But changing them comes with the option for them to expire, so no one even needs to deliberately take it away again. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:49, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll ask a bureaucrat tomorrow, then. Thanks for the help. — Julia ☺ ☆ • formerly Gormflaith • 02:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * , I've given you temporary admin powers for this purpose. They will expire automatically in one week. —Stephen (Talk) 07:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. – — Julia ☺ ☆ • formerly Gormflaith • 11:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Or maybe should I say thank you so much myself instead, as you gave the rights to me: Special:log/rights/Stephen G. Brown. I let you fix that. Haha :-) — Automatik (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Wow, how weird. When I started to add Julia's bit, I decided to check on something and clicked out. Then I clicked back to Julia's page and added the bit without looking at the name. Obviously I clicked too far. Thanks for the headsup. —Stephen (Talk) 21:00, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Estonian inflection table templates
In many of the Wiktionary entries for Estonian I find “(genitive [please provide], partitive [please provide]) and “This adjective, noun, numeral etc needs an inflection-table template”. These are obviously requests that people have made for the stated forms but for some strange reason nobody ever provides them. I have provided the requested forms but my contributions have been ignored. What is the point of requesting something and ignoring it when it is provided? Here are the forms for (second, other, another) and a few other Estonian nouns. Will someone please enter them in Wiktionary instead of ignoring them?
 * Genitive singular: teise
 * Partitive singular: teist
 * Remaining forms:-
 * Illative singular: teisesse, teise
 * Inessive singular: teises
 * Elative singular: teisest
 * Allative singular: teisele
 * Adessive singular: teisel
 * Ablative singular: teiselt
 * Translative singular: teiseks
 * Terminative singular: teiseni
 * Essive singular: teisena
 * Abessive singular: teiseta
 * Comitative singular: teisega
 * Nominative plural: teised
 * Genitive plural: teiste
 * Partitive plural: teisi
 * Illative plural: teistesse
 * Inessive plural: teistes
 * Elative plural: teistest
 * Allative plural: teistele
 * Adessive plural: teistel
 * Ablative plural: teistelt
 * Translative plural: teisteks
 * Terminative plural: teisteni
 * Essive plural: teistena
 * Abessive plural: teisteta
 * Comitative plural: teistega


 * (cupboard, wardrobe)
 * Genitive singular: kapi
 * Partitive singular: kappi
 * Remaining forms:-
 * Illative singular: kapisse, kappi
 * Inessive singular: kapis
 * Elative singular: kapist
 * Allative singular: kapile
 * Adessive singular: kapil
 * Ablative singular: kapilt
 * Translative singular: kapiks
 * Terminative singular: kapini
 * Essive singular: kapina
 * Abessive singular: kapita
 * Comitative singular: kapiga
 * Nominative plural: kapid
 * Genitive plural: kappide
 * Partitive plural: kappe, kappisid
 * Illative plural: kappidesse
 * Inessive plural: kappides
 * Elative plural: kappidest
 * Allative plural: kappidele
 * Adessive plural: kappidel
 * Ablative plural: kappidelt
 * Translative plural: kappideks
 * Terminative plural: kappideni
 * Essive plural: kappidena
 * Abessive plural: kappideta
 * Comitative plural: kappidega


 * (neck)
 * Genitive singular: kaela
 * Partitive singular: kaela
 * Remaining forms:-
 * Illative singular: kaelasse, kaela
 * Inessive singular: kaelas
 * Elative singular: kaelast
 * Allative singular: kaelale
 * Adessive singular: kaelal
 * Ablative singular: kaelalt
 * Translative singular: kaelaks
 * Terminative singular: kaelani
 * Essive singular: kaelana
 * Abessive singular: kaelata
 * Comitative singular: kaelaga
 * Nominative plural: kaelad
 * Genitive plural: kaelade, kaelte
 * Partitive plural: kaelu
 * Illative plural: kaeladesse
 * Inessive plural: kaelades
 * Elative plural: kaeladest
 * Allative plural: kaeladele
 * Adessive plural: kaeladel
 * Ablative plural: kaeladelt
 * Translative plural: kaeladeks
 * Terminative plural: kaeladeni
 * Essive plural: kaeladena
 * Abessive plural: kaeladeta
 * Comitative plural: kaeladega

Does nael (nail, pound) follow the same pattern as kael? Please check whether occurs as one of the forms of the genitive plural or whether there is only the one form,.
 * (nail, pound)
 * Genitive singular: naela
 * Partitive singular: naela
 * Remaining forms:-
 * Illative singular: naelasse, naela
 * Inessive singular: naelas
 * Elative singular: naelast
 * Allative singular: naelale
 * Adessive singular: naelal
 * Ablative singular: naelalt
 * Translative singular: naelaks
 * Terminative singular: naelani
 * Essive singular: naelana
 * Abessive singular: naelata
 * Comitative singular: naelaga
 * Nominative plural: naelad
 * Genitive plural: naelade, naelte
 * Partitive plural: naelu
 * Illative plural: naeladesse
 * Inessive plural: naelades
 * Elative plural: naeladest
 * Allative plural: naeladele
 * Adessive plural: naeladel
 * Ablative plural: naeladelt
 * Translative plural: naeladeks
 * Terminative plural: naeladeni
 * Essive plural: naeladena
 * Abessive plural: naeladeta
 * Comitative plural: naeladega


 * (gold)
 * Genitive singular: kulla
 * Partitive singular: kulda
 * Remaining forms:-
 * Illative singular: kullasse, kulda
 * Inessive singular: kullas
 * Elative singular: kullast
 * Allative singular: kullale
 * Adessive singular: kullal
 * Ablative singular: kullalt
 * Translative singular: kullaks
 * Terminative singular: kullani
 * Essive singular: kullana
 * Abessive singular: kullata
 * Comitative singular: kullaga

One would have thought that this is a mass noun and as such has only singular forms. However, apparently plural forms occur. If desired, they are as follows:
 * Nominative plural: kullad
 * Genitive plural: kuldade
 * Partitive plural: kuldasid, kuldi
 * Illative plural: kuldadesse
 * Inessive plural: kuldades
 * Elative plural: kuldadest
 * Allative plural: kuldadele
 * Adessive plural: kuldadel
 * Ablative plural: kuldadelt
 * Translative plural: kuldadeks
 * Terminative plural: kuldadeni
 * Essive plural: kuldadena
 * Abessive plural: kuldadeta
 * Comitative plural: kuldadega


 * Sorry if it seems like we're ignoring you. Someone who knows Estonian needs to work on these. is one of our Estonian editors. To add these forms, we have to use Estonian templates, such as one found here: Category:Estonian declension-table templates. Maybe User:Strombones could show you how to use the Estonian templates, and then you could add these forms yourself. —Stephen (Talk) 05:20, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep, noun inflection is all covered by templates. Verb templates have a few holes (like, which has an irregular passive; there's no verb template for irregular verbs as far as I know). To see a noun's type, consult the ÕS - here's the page for "teine" - as you can see, it is type "oluline", and we have a template for it. It's just not been added to that specific page. For nouns with 2 declension types I usually just add 2 declension tables. For "nael", it is both type "hein" and type "leib". (in this case this is because it has 3 different partitive plurals - "naelu", "naeli", and "naelasid") Nouns also have an irregular template, as seen in , which doesn't have a singular nominative. Strombones (talk) 09:12, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Estonian verb conjugation
(to boil, to cook) - transitive

Presumably the conjugation of this verb will follow that of (to accompany, to escort, to send), therefore the forms are as follows:


 * Present indicative active:

Singular: 1st person: keedan 2nd person: keedad 3rd person: keedab Plural: 1st person: keedame 2nd person: keedate 3rd person: keedavad Negative: ei keeda Passive positive: keedetakse Passive negative: ei keedeta
 * Past indicative active:

Singular: 1st person: keetsin 2nd person: keetsid 3rd person: keetis Plural: 1st person: keetsime 2nd person: keetsite 3rd person: keetsid Negative: ei keetnud Passive positive: keedeti Passive negative: ei keedetud
 * Perfect indicative active:

Singular: 1st person: olen keetnud 2nd person: oled keetnud 3rd person: on keetnud Plural: 1st person: oleme keetnud 2nd person: olete keetnud 3rd person: on keetnud Negative: ei ole keetnud, pole keetnud Passive positive: on keedetud Passive negative: ei ole keedetud, pole keedetud
 * Pluperfect indicative:

Singular: 1st person: olin keetnud 2nd person: olid keetnud 3rd person: oli keetnud Plural: 1st person: olime keetnud 2nd person: olite keetnud 3rd person: olid keetnud Negative: ei olnud keetnud, polnud keetnud Passive positive: oli keedetud Passive negative: ei olnud keedetud, polnud keedetud
 * Conditional present active:

Singular: 1st person: keedaksin 2nd person: keedaksid 3rd person: keedaks Plural: 1st person: keedaksime 2nd person: keedaksite 3rd person: keedaksid Negative: ei keedaks Passive positive: keedetaks Passive negative: ei keedetaks
 * Conditional perfect active:

Singular: 1st person: oleksin keetnud 2nd person: oleksid keetnud 3rd person: oleks keetnud Plural: 1st person: oleksime keetnud 2nd person: oleksite keetnud 3rd person: oleksid keetnud Negative: ei oleks saatnud, poleks keetnud Passive positive: oleks keedetud Passive negative: ei oleks keedetud, poleks keedetud
 * Imperative present positive:

Singular: 2nd person: keeda 3rd person: keetku Plural: 1st person: keetkem 2nd person: keetke 3rd person: keetku Passive: keedetagu
 * Imperative present negative:

Singular: 2nd person: ära keeda 3rd person: ärgu keetku Plural: 1st person: ärgem keetkem 2nd person: ärge keetke 3rd person: ärgu keetku Passive: ärgu keedetagu
 * Imperative perfect positive:

Singular: 3rd person: olgu keetnud Plural: 3rd person: olgu keetnud Passive: olgu keedetud
 * Imperative perfect negative:

Singular: 3rd person: ärgu olgu keetnud Plural: 3rd person: ärgu olgu keetnud Passive: ärgu olgu keedetud
 * Quotative present:

Active positive: keetvat Passive positive: keedetavat Active negative: ei keetvat Passive negative: ei keedetavat
 * Quotative perfect:

Active positive: olevat keetnud Passive positive: olevat keedetud Active negative: ei olevat keetnud, polevat keetnud Passive negative: ei olevat keedetud, polevat keedetud
 * Nominal forms:

ma-infinitive active: Nominative: Inessive: keetmas Elative: keetmast Translative: keetmaks Abessive: keetmata ma-infinitive passive: keedetama da-infinitive: da-form: keeta des-form: keetes
 * Participles:

Present active: keetev Present passive: keedetav Past active: keetnud Past passive: keedetud

Please check that all the above forms are correct then create an inflection table template with the complete conjugation of this verb. Johnling60 (talk) 00:09, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Estonian noun declension
(refrigerator)
 * Genitive singular: külmkapi
 * Partitive singular: külmkappi
 * Remaining forms:-
 * Illative singular: külmkapisse, külmkappi
 * Inessive singular: külmkapis
 * Elative singular: külmkapist
 * Allative singular: külmkapile
 * Adessive singular: külmkapil
 * Ablative singular: külmkapilt
 * Translative singular: külmkapiks
 * Terminative singular: külmkapini
 * Essive singular: külmkapina
 * Abessive singular: külmkapita
 * Comitative singular: külmkapiga
 * Nominative plural: külmkapid
 * Genitive plural: külmkappide
 * Partitive plural: külmkappe, külmkappisid
 * Illative plural: külmkappidesse
 * Inessive plural: külmkappides
 * Elative plural: külmkappidest
 * Allative plural: külmkappidele
 * Adessive plural: külmkappidel
 * Ablative plural: külmkappidelt
 * Translative plural: külmkappideks
 * Terminative plural: külmkappideni
 * Essive plural: külmkappidena
 * Abessive plural: külmkappideta
 * Comitative plural: külmkappidega

Johnling60 (talk) 00:23, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Estonian noun declension - kael
Please create an inflection table template for (neck) and complete with the declension already given. Johnling60 (talk) 00:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Clarification to Entry layout
I felt that some of the text in the section List of headings was particularly unclear, in the sense that a reader would not get the intended meaning unless they already knew it. So I devised a replacement text. I cannot apply it myself; the page is locked to prevent editing. "View source" calls up a text that suggests recommending any additions or changes to the page on its talkpage. Which I duly did, here: Wiktionary talk:Entry layout. That was three-and-a-half months ago, but nothing happened. --Lambiam 16:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * As the top of the page says, any change requires discussion, and any major change requires a vote. The forum designated for policy discussion is the Beer parlour; you can try posting your suggested changes there. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 11:31, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅: posted at the Beer parlour. --Lambiam 21:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Estonian noun declension - raha
(money, currency) Genitive singular: raha Partitive singular: raha Remaining forms:- Illative singular: rahasse, rahha Inessive singular: rahas Elative singular: rahast Allative singular: rahale Adessive singular: rahal Ablative singular: rahalt Translative singular: rahaks Terminative singular: rahani Essive singular: rahana Abessive singular: rahata Comitative singular: rahaga Nominative plural: rahad Genitive plural: rahade Partitive plural: rahasid Illative plural: rahadesse Inessive plural: rahades Elative plural: rahadest Allative plural: rahadele Adessive plural: rahadel Ablative plural: rahadelt Translative plural: rahadeks Terminative plural: rahadeni Essive plural: rahadena Abessive plural: rahadeta Comitative plural: rahadega Johnling60 (talk) 17:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Estonian noun declension -
Why has nobody created an inflection table template for this word despite the fact that the full declension is available on the information desk? Johnling60 (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * There's only a few nouns with this exact type (both hein and leib), so there's really no point imo in making a special template for just this case. Strombones (talk) 17:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Faulty conjugation needs correcting.
The past participle of einchecken is eingecheckt, not eincheckt. According to duden.de --79.138.78.24 09:42, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Lambiam 11:16, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

category for mental illness
Do we have a category for mental illness terms like insanity, madness, delusion, etc.? ---&#62; Tooironic (talk) 05:48, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * There is Category:Psychiatry. Wyang (talk) 06:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Frank. That's helpful. ---&#62; Tooironic (talk) 08:48, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

English words prefixed with self-
self-entitlement

Not “eye dialect”, but rather...
The entry for the word prolly currently states that it is an “Eye dialect spelling of probably.” That is wrong, because the definition of eye dialect (even its etymology) includes the notion of standard pronunciation, whereas none of the documented possible pronunciations of probably omit the second “b”.

I would correct it but I don't know what to put instead.

Does anyone know what is the proper designation of the phenomenon in question? Is prolly simply a corruption of probably? I find that the definition of corruption (in the linguistics context) is not an ideal match for this need.
 * Maybe the correct category for this would be . There were discussions about the fact that words are categorized eye dialect are often actually pronunciation spellings at and . — Eru·tuon 23:23, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * In this case, I wouldn't even say it's a pronunciation (re)spelling, I would say it's a clipping of sorts, basically a new word, like tarp is not a respelling but a derived synonym of tarpaulin. - -sche (discuss) 01:37, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't agree. I believe the pronunciation /ˈpɹɒ.li/ instead of /ˈpɹɑbli/ is the result of poor or lazy articulation, as when a speaker is very tired or drunk.
 * One may distinguish four possibilities (other than typos):
 * pronunciation standard, spelling standard;
 * pronunciation standard, spelling non-standard but "phonetic": and ;
 * pronunciation non-standard, spelling standard: ;
 * pronunciation non-standard, spelling non-standard but "phonetic":.
 * An example of case 3 is /ˈɔftən/ for . I would put prolly squarely in case 4. Another example of case 4 is . --Lambiam 01:50, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

participles are...
At Category:XXXX participles (e.g. at Cat:GreekPRTP) I read: ... verbs not fully conjugated, usually to be used in compound conjugations. I cannot understand this. Could it be rephrased? for less learned readers? Like: At Category:XXX participle forms (e.g. at Cat:Gr.PRTCPforms) I read  ...participles that are inflected to display grammatical relations other than the main form. Thank you sarri.greek (talk) 17:03, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * at wiktionary participle: A form of a verb that may function as an adjective or noun [noun? he means when substantivized?]
 * at wikipedia participle: A form of a verb that /is used in a sentence to modify a noun, noun phrase, verb, or verb phrase, and/ plays a role similar to an adjective or adverb
 * at SIL: a lexical item, derived from a verb, that has some of the characteristics and functions of both verbs and adjectives.
 * maybe: Xxxx inflectional forms of participles? (or something like that?)
 * Even though the verb of which a participle is a form may, semantically speaking, have a subject, in most languages the subject does not affect the verb form, also in many languages that otherwise indicate the person of the subject in verb conjugations. So while you say, "I am happy and he is happy too", in "my being happy and his being happy are not the same" the form does not change. I suspect that that may be the intention behind "not fully conjugated". I do not understand the intended meaning of the phrase "used in compound conjugations" – or, for that matter, the meaning of "compound conjugation". So a bit of rephrasing may be indicated. The confusion about whether a participle may function as a noun (Wiktionary) or not (other sources) may be due to the particular role of the . It is a verb form classified (by modern, "linguistically informed" grammarians) as a participle, while it functions, grammatically, rather as a noun. For example, "Even at the Kurdish wedding feasts, I had not seen such merry dancing in circles." Here,, classified as a noun on our Wiktionary, is actually a gerund, and thus (if you believe these informed grammarians) a participle.
 * So it would seem that a participle is a verb form that may function, grammatically, as an adjective, adverb, or noun. However, which of such verb forms in a given language are actually considered participles depends on the tradition in the grammatical studies of the language in question. A boilerplate text for all languages is presumably not helpful. In German, an infinitive like can serve as a noun, but I don't think German grammarians would call it a participle – presumably because they aimed to apply the traditional concepts of Latin grammar to German, and the Latin grammarians did not call the infinitive a participle. I guess.  --Lambiam 01:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "Compound conjugation" refers, I think, to "am going", "are going", "will be going", "was going", where going is only part of verb. I think "not fully conjugated" is the more confusing part of the label, and would just drop it as unhelpful/unnecessary. Frankly, perhaps the whole thing should be dropped and replaced with "[langname] participles", letting our entry explain what participles are. - -sche (discuss) 01:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. Participles are so many things in so many languages that it would require an essay to fit every language that has them. I still have trouble wrapping my head around some of the uses of Ancient Greek participles, for instance. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe the concept of compound conjugation as explained above is very much not language-agnostic. Turkish has a rich set of participles, but nothing comparable to such "compound" conjugations.
 * Assuming there is decent text at " LANGNAME participle ", referring there would be an improvement in clarity, but these entries might be hit by SOP objections. And as far as I see, we have exactly zero such entries: no Latin participles, no Greek participles, no English participles. So why not put the appropriate texts that would have to be created anyway directly on the category pages? --Lambiam 02:06, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "English participle" would certainly be SOP: the definition should be at participle. Why put definitions on category pages and not in the appropriate entry? Any information which is not definitional to "participle" but rather language-specific could go on the language's About page. The category boilerplate text is, as far as I know, boilerplate applied to all participles. - -sche (discuss) 02:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Who's to say we should house a language-agnostic comprehensive explanation in mainspace? Either make an appendix and link to it, or link to Wikipedia. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:06, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding a part of speech
The L3 header 'Ideophone' was approved and added to WT:EL, but Category:Chichewa ideophones still throws an error. Where am I supposed to add this? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 21:09, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I would assume you would add it into one of the poscatboiler data modules (Module:category_tree/poscatboiler/data). S URJECTION ·talk·contr·log· 21:13, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Apparently it belongs at Module:category tree/poscatboiler/data/lemmas. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 23:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)