Wiktionary:Information desk/2024/April

Quoting a Latin textbook that provides its own translations
I was looking at the page peculatus after reading a chapter from Conversational Latin for Oral Proficiency. I'm wondering how I would quote the material from the book which uses the word, given that the book is both in English and in Latin translated and written by its author. The word is used on page 191 of the PDF, 190 of the book. I looked at the templates but couldn't figure it out, thanks in advance! '' VenatorPolaris (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As it's no proper usage (but some teaching material, a textbook), copyrighted (author J. C. Traupman died 2019), contains things like "Vashintónia" [sic, no g] for it's better not quoted. --21:06, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

What is this text character?

 * the character at B5 is given as "Q̬" (note this is just someone's approximation in modern PC characters; the QL is a different beast), and defined in the manual as "script mark", or possibly "Swedish script mark". What is it? You can see a blurry screenshot of the character on real hardware here: . It's towards the right of the fourth row, between the ¿ and §. Equinox ◑ 08:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * To be clear, the Q̬ link is just a U+0051 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Q with U+032C COMBINING CARON BELOW. I have written Urs to see what help he can provide. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Adding "East Limburgish-Ripuarian" to Module:category tree/poscatboiler/data/language varieties
I wanted to add East-Limburgish Ripuarian as a regional category of Limburgish, because the original "Southeast Limburgish" category I added should only refer to the varieties of East-Limburgish-Ripuarian as spoken in Dutch Limburg. East Limburgish-Ripuarian should therefore be the parent category of Southeast Limburgish. To do this I assume East Limburgish-Ripuarian needs to be added to Module:category tree/poscatboiler/data/language varieties, but I am not entirely sure. So before I start adding things to an important module and make a mistake I wanted to clarify whether this should indeed be added to the local dialect_parent_cats_to_scrape list, or not. @Benwing2 (tagging you because you are the main contributor to the module) BartGerardsSodermans (talk) 10:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @BartGerardsSodermans Apologies for the delay, I've gotten a lot of pings in the last few days and I'm a bit behind responding to them all. I think your intuition used to be correct but I just pushed a code change that eliminates the special allow-list in `dialect_parent_cats_to_scrape`; it should now work correctly automatically even if you have a nonstandardly-named parent category. Benwing2 (talk) 08:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Template Babel language codes
I cant work the code for the Ukrainian language on my user page, i'm trying to imply that i don't speak it at all but make changes on the language's entries just because i have some simple knowledge (i.e. uk-0). Thank you. Garethphua (talk) 14:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅ I changed it to the parser function. There is no "en-sg" as either a parser function or a userbox tho. :/ —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Untranslated citing of a journal
Can one use cite-journal to display an entry from an article in a journal without translating the entry without populating a nagging category? If so, how? The case I have in mind is an article written in Lithuanian (code lt), demonstrating a word in Sudovian (code xsd). The citations are being included in the list of references. The template currently being used is R:xsv:Zinkevičius85, and a specimen page using it is augd. Pages like this are currently flooding cat:Lithuanian quotations with omitted translation, which is not helpful. The quotations typically contain three written out words (in Sudovian, Lithuanian and Polish), a number, and one Lithuanian abbreviation ('l.', presumably meaning 'Polish'). --RichardW57m (talk) 16:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * A possible solution is being discussed in the Grease Pit at Wrong categorisation of cites with an untranslated passage. --RichardW57m (talk) 11:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Cannot create page "naufragiosus"
Hello,

I am trying to create a page for the word "naufragiosus" (covered in/full of shipwrecks) in Latin. I cannot actually submit it because the system assumes it is spam. I am assuming this is because I used this word as my username. But it is in fact a real word. See French Wiktionary. Naufragiosus (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I have created a blank entry at naufragiosus. Tell me if have any problems editing it. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I have filled it out. Naufragiosus (talk) 20:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Rhymes:English Update
I think that the current edition of the page could do with some tweaks, namely:
 * Condense tables and slightly reorganise table
 * e.g. change pear in GA table to pair  and move it to the a row
 * e.g. replace redundant "/ɛ/ from /ɛ/" to just "/ɛ/"
 * e.g. replace "", etc., in RP table with just " since they don’t contrast
 * Change hyperlink in See also to a basic link.

I made a mockup of the edits I think should be made below, where ever there is a "(Heading)" symbolises that that line should be a heading:

Received Pronunciation (Heading)

General American pronunciation (Heading)

The rhymes index above is structured by standard British pronunciation, so American and other dialects may need to consult multiple pages for words that rhyme.
 * Indices distinguish between words containing an r sound and those that do not, so, for example, pa and par feature in separate lists.

See also (Heading) 2001:BB6:B84C:CF00:C478:73D9:BED6:9846 11:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Rhyme
 * All English rhyme pages