Wiktionary:Votes/2009-12/The doublewiki on a single page (Wikisource extension)

The doublewiki on a single page (Wikisource extension)
This extension add a symbol ⇔ near the interwikis, click on one of them will show the article of chosen language on the right side. It will able having English and another language wiktionaries definition on the same page. Adding this extension is curently in vote phase on fr.wiktionary (fr:Wiktionnaire:Wikidémie/décembre_2009).
 * Voting on: The doublewiki on a single page (Wikisource extension) see there: http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:DoubleWiki_Extension


 * Vote starts: 16:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 24:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Vote created: Otourly 16:24, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Beer_parlour
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Wiktionary talk:Votes/2009-12/The doublewiki on a single page (Wikisource extension)

Support

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support: facultative gadget for those who don't want to hear about. JackPotte 16:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support It looks promising and facilitating access to other language editions of wiktionary. From what I read in the more circumstantial explanation on fr.wikt the tool is facultative and its supporters may activate it by means of monobook adjustments, therefore an eventual indorsement of the tool would not influence its adversaries. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 19:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose. Not useless, but not really worth is just to see both pages on one page at half width. It's much easier just to open two tabs and flick between the two, bearing in mind each Wiktionary will have each language in a different order. Maybe try again in a year. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * this has potential uses for other wikis and other projects, I believe some have used it. On English it would give a wider range of people an opportunity to try it Otourly 10:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose for now, until there's some better discussion of the merits and how this thing is to work. &#x200b;-- msh210 ℠ 19:39, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * a part of this extension is made by devs, so I can't show it. But another par is placed on the commons.js. I have copy this part there: fr:Utilisateur:Otourly/monobook.js. Regards, Otourly 11:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the dev part has its source code at IINM, but I don't claim to be able to understand it. &#x200b;-- msh210 ℠ 17:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose EncycloPetey 14:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC) The few places where I've seen this or a similar tool enacted, it hasn't worked.  Specifically, this concept doesn't work well on Wikisource, and there it's being used to place an original text against a translation of that very same text.  I can't see how this tool could possibly function to do its job on Wiktionary, where there isn't even a guarantee that the two pages will have any overlap in content at all.  That is, what happens if our entry for a Galician verb "foobar" is paired up with a Portuguese "foobar" on the Galician Wiktionary?  There is just too much on Wiktionary that this tool is woefully inadequate for, and it will lead to more confusion than enything.  This tool does not currently add value to Wiktionary.  We have no need to place two unrelated texts side-by-side. --EncycloPetey 14:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose per EP. Experience has shown that when we give people a broken feature (e.g., box-style inflection lines), they want us to start breaking other things (e.g., moving right-floating content around) to try to get it to work better. Better not to add broken features in the first place. --Ruakh TALK 15:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose Neskaya contribs–talk? 03:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC) Per EP. --Neskaya contribs–talk? 03:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose Robert Ullmann 11:35, 10 December 2009 (UTC) might make sense for wikisource, where the linked page is purportedly a translation of the same text, (but see their example, which does not work) makes no sense here. Robert Ullmann 11:35, 10 December 2009 (UTC) (um, this vote hasn't started yet, has it? ;-) Robert Ullmann 15:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 08:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC) As per EP. Easier parallel use of two languages is a laudable goal, notably for seeing the English & Foreign entries on a Foreign word, but as EP mentions, this is a hard technical problem (not solvable without structured entries in all languages), and anyone who can use this can more easily use two tabs.
 * 6) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose —Internoob (Disc.•Cont.) 00:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC) per above.
 * 7) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose Razorflame 00:13, 21 December 2009 (UTC) per above.
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose —Internoob (Disc.•Cont.) 00:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC) per above.
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose Raz<b style="color:#808080">or</b><b style="color:#696969">fl</b><b style="color:#808080">ame</b> 00:13, 21 December 2009 (UTC) per above.

Decision

 * Motion fails 2 votes to 9. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)