Wiktionary:Votes/bt-2010-06/User:Diego Grez Bot for bot status

User:Diego Grez Bot for bot status

 * Nomination: I hereby request the Bot flag for for the following purposes:
 * interwiki

There are already 2 interwiki bots here, but I think mine could be useful too. Also, it will interwiki on mainspace, just for sh.wiktionary or wikis Interwiki doesn't works, and using Pywikipediabot, that worked good enough adding some sh.wiktionary interwikis, just if needed.


 * Vote ends: 23:59 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Vote started: 12:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] WT:BP

Support

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Yair rand (talk) 13:19, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Ivan Štambuk 22:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC) It adds Serbo-Croatian interwiki links (sh:) which Interwicket ignores. --Ivan Štambuk 22:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support  Fuck Interwicket. — [&#32;R·I·C&#32;] opiaterein — 19:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 20:40, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]]  Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 05:04, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose for now. User should run further tests before starting a vote. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 15:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. I ran some more test. Sorry for the bot removing some links, due that they were bad posted: by example: Malay . The other edits are perfectly fine, and sorry for these inconveniences. =) --Diego Grez 17:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Malay is a perfectly fine link, albeit non-standard. Conrad.Irwin 17:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. I'll have to edit the pywiki code, otherwise it'll be a "vandal bot" lol. Sorry again =) --Diego Grez 17:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, the 36 edits you've made seem to be good (not that I can tell what all of the foreign pages are necessarily) except for the ones where you've removed en: links, per above. Can you please post an update to this page when you've fixed that and run some more test edits? Thanks. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 18:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The test edits have included mainspace interwiki linking, while the BP discussion says that the bot will be for other namespaces only. The nomination above is unclear. I recommend pulling this nomination until the nomination is clarified and the bot is further tested (per the bad edits pointed out by Conrad), and then restarting it. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 15:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Now the nomination above says the bot will also add interwiki links to the mainspace. Using what code? The usual code used by bots on the 'pedias is not good here. (Anyway, code should be posted.) &#x200b;—msh210℠ 19:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope I have clarified what I meant. --Diego Grez 20:40, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose. Suspect edits:, , , , . --Dan Polansky 04:41, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but note that those were all before Conrad posted his comment, above, at 17:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC). &#x200b;—msh210℠ 15:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Just notify me after you think the bot is ready, and I will readily strike my oppose. --Dan Polansky 15:55, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the inconveniences, again. The problem was, that I was running the bot in -auto mode, that will remove the Diego Grez 18:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The time for this vote has lapsed, but I gather from all of the above that the vote is now on hold until you can fix and retest the bot. Is that right? —Stephen 21:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll do a last test run on the Project namespace. --Diego Grez 22:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Decision
Fails 3–2. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 16:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 3? I am the fourth. I am aware that by the time I casted my vote the deadline had elapsed, but I stick to my vote. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 16:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I counted three because yours was late. In any event, it's a failure. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 17:27, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I expected the counting to be accomplished by a user who has not partaken of the voting. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 18:16, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. --Diego Grez 18:44, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't think the count was a particularly difficult one to accomplish. I know mathematicians are notorious for being bad at simple arithmetic, but I thought that this was simple enough that even a mathematician like me could handle it. It turns out that I was wrong — there was a protest about my count, above — but I immediately gave in ("[i]n any event", above). &#x200b;—msh210℠ 20:09, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It is not about diffuculty, but about involvement, and the objection does not concern the count per se. Had it been accomplished by an uninvolved user, I would have hardly objected. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 20:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think much confusion arose about whether or not you had fixed the problems that people pointed out. I would recommend extending this vote for a week, if you could communicate what is fixed and isn't fixed more clearly, then perhaps the opposers would change their minds. Conrad.Irwin 18:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Well. I will clarify:


 * the bot removed [[en: links because it was running in -auto mode, with pywikipediabot, something I'm not going to do anymore, because it removes them.
 * the bot uses nothing more than pywikipedia. I think publishing the code is redundant.
 * the bot adds interwikis for sh.wiktionary in the main namespace, and probably some others.
 * So, I don't had to edit the code, the problem was running it in automatic mode.

--Diego Grez 18:50, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "probably some others"? Conrad.Irwin 18:56, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I mean, if the bot finds some other interwiki that is not here in sh.wiktionary, the bot will add it here too. --Diego Grez 18:57, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Pywikipedia is a collection of numerous scripts. Which will your bot be running? (Last I heard the interwiki script (I forget its name) that comes with pywikipedia was no good for same-pagetitle interwikis of the sort used on enwikt. Has that changed?) &#x200b;—msh210℠ 20:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * interwiki.py works fine for me. --Diego Grez 20:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The "interwiki.py" code is not capable of following policy on numerous wikts including en.wikt. It does not respect witk preference for linking to redirects (or not), it always removes links to redirects; it has the wrong sort order for several wikts (reported, but tickets closed w/o fixing); it will not follow the pl.wikt restrictions on links to ru.wikt, or any similar case (that is the only present one). In use outside of NS:0, the issue is mostly the sort order, and the order for en.wikt is correct. Robert Ullmann 09:07, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 * You know Robert, if you would just fix your bot to do sh, this would all be rather a moot point. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 12:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Atelaes, could you kindly fix the result to pass, since 3-2 may not be a pass, but 5-2 definitely is. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 07:43, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Passes at 5-2. It's a bit unusual, as no one actually followed Conrad's suggestion of extending it for a week, but I suppose we can let that slide. Truth be told, I'm still a bit uncertain about this, so I'll be keeping an eye on the bot. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 07:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Stephen's instituted the bot flag. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 09:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)