Wiktionary:Votes/bt-2011-04/User:WikitanvirBot

User:WikitanvirBot for bot status

 * Nomination: I hereby request the Bot flag for User:WikitanvirBot for the following purposes:
 * Inter-wiki adding, removing, and modifying
 * Wikitanvir 16:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Vote started: 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23:59 24 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Grease pit

Support

 * 1) Support Highly trusted. -- Quentinv57  ✍   14:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Support after the discussion below. JackPotte 17:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
As Quentinv57, I will copy here my fr.wikt paragraph:

As far as I know, interwiki.py has never been really properly adapted to the Wiktionary family for at least the following reasons: JackPotte 18:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) The cs.wikt specificities.
 * 2) The different apostrophes according to the site language (for example aujourd'hui is pointing to a redirection fr:aujourd'hui, the script may remove them, and sometimes there isn't any one).
 * 3) Only two bots arrived to do that for a few years: User:Interwicket/code, and Luckas-bot at the third vote.
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  Dan Polansky 08:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC) In the discussion linked above, the bot owner says this: "It [the bot] uses standard script interwiki.py and uses Pywikipediabot framework." From what some experienced admins said, running this standard script without modification for Wiktionary has some adverse effects. That seems to correspond to what JackPotte is saying above. --Dan Polansky 08:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol comment vote.svg|20px]] Comment &mdash; You both opposed here. With due respect (some lines for frwikit discussion):
 * I think you are not quite right. You said Luckas's bot is okay, but see here his user-config.py, which has fr and cs wikt in it, and he uses the same interwiki.py from Pywikipedia. Also previously flagged ArthurBot, it runs in interwiki.py too. No customization in script. As these are okay, as my present test edits are okay, I see no problem.
 * I think, you will reconsider. Thanks! Wikitanvir 18:09, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's try python interwiki.py -lang:en -family:wiktionary -file:articles_list.txt -confirm, with aujourd'hui inside.
 * If someone find a solution for the apostrophes, it will stay at least a pl.wikt order problem. JackPotte 10:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * if we run the command without -wiktionary parameter, it will modify the inter-wiki to the redirected page, and place the inter-wiki to the existing page. But if we run with -wiktionary (and I run it with that parameter), it will simply ignore that page with a message, "Ignoring fr:aujourd’hui for aujourd'hui in wiktionary mode." I think you are okay with this. Wikitanvir 07:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Apart from the pl.wikt order:
 * How are you able to manage an article like pomme d'amour (the English returns towards a French one, which only returns toward a Portuguese one)?
 * What happens when there isn't any redirection between the different articles to link (eg: L'Aquila <=> fr:L’Aquila)? JackPotte 09:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Answer to both of your questions: I answered that already, it is same like above. The bot doesn't make an edit, and it will not if you run the bot with  enable. Interwiki.py is not evil. The command I ran is,  . Wikitanvir 16:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry but we've seen a few editions wars with this script by the past, about the above topics. JackPotte 19:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * But my bot, as far as you see is right, right? So, after asking all this questions, why you think, it's not trustworthy to run this bot on this wiki? For just using inter-wiki.py, where few other bots run in same script? Wikitanvir 03:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, all the known problems seem to be fixed on the repository. JackPotte 17:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Decision

 * Fails 2–1. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 19:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)