Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2012-03/Moving "Coordinate terms" up in ELE

Moving "Coordinate terms" up in ELE

 * Voting on: Changing the order of headings in WT:ELE by moving "Coordinate terms" up.

Current state:


 * Synonyms
 * Antonyms
 * Other allowable -nyms
 * Derived terms
 * Related terms
 * Coordinate terms
 * Descendants

Proposed state:


 * Synonyms
 * Antonyms
 * Other allowable -nyms
 * Coordinate terms
 * Derived terms
 * Related terms
 * Descendants

Rationale:


 * Keeping "synonyms", "antonyms", "other allowable -nyms" and "coordinate terms" all together, as sections of semantic relations
 * Keeping "derived terms", "related terms" and "descendants" all together, as sections of etymological relations.

Notes:


 * In a number of entries, the semantic relations are already separate from the etymological relations, even if this format contradicts ELE. Examples: axis, iron, quality, study, mother, penultimate. For contrast, in joke and diary, the order of headings from ELE is obeyed. The exact number of entries by whether the order of headings is obeyed remains unknown.
 * ELE seems to have a contradiction, as the headers are ordered as follows and "Coordinate terms" is listed inside WT:Semantic relations.
 * 3.3.4 Synonyms
 * 3.3.5 Further semantic relations
 * 3.3.6 Derived terms
 * 3.3.7 Related terms
 * This would entail a change to the order of headings established by a previous vote.


 * Vote starts: 00:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23.59, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Vote created: --Daniel 21:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] WT:BP
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2012-03/Moving &

Support

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support --Daniel 16:56, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support . I do agree with Liliana, but I also believe this vote is an improvement either way.  17:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC) 17:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support - -sche (discuss) 18:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 15:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 20:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support EncycloPetey (talk) 22:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support —Ruakh TALK 22:08, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support BenjaminBarrett12 (talk) 17:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 21:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain  I would prefer that the heading "Coordinate terms" be dropped entirely. It is hardly even used anywhere, and the purpose it serves is handled quite well by topical categories. -- Liliana • 17:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * My search for "coordinate terms" in the main namespace (link) returned 2,919 results.
 * Moreover, the heading "See also" is often used to fulfill the purpose of "Coordinate terms", such as in joker. Therefore, there are entries that link to their coordinate terms together in a section but did not appear in the search above.
 * I do think that joker should link to ace, king, queen and jack directly. Merely replacing the direct links by one or more topical categories would be a bad idea, because they require the aditional effort of searching through the many category links at the bottom and clicking the right one; and, topical categories often are messy, inconsistent and untended. --Daniel 21:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * =See also= ? Ƿidsiþ 07:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain Ƿidsiþ 07:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC) as above.

Decision
Vote passes 9-0-1. I have modified ELE, but we will need a user with a bot to execute it in the entries. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)