Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2016-11/Voting limits

Voting limits
Voting on:

Proposal #1 — Removing this rule from Voting policy:
 * "No topic should have a new vote more than once a day (24 hr period)."

Proposal #2 — If, and only if, the Proposal #1 passes, adding this new rule in Voting policy to replace what was removed:
 * "The same person cannot create more than one vote in the span of 7 days. (For example, if someone creates a vote on December 9, then they must wait until at least December 16 before creating another one.)"
 * Note: If the proposal 1 fails, then the proposal 2 is void.

Rationale:
 * The Proposal #1 is about removing a rule about voting "once a day (24 hr period)", which translates as 30 votes per month and therefore is not an useful limit. (and it uses "topic" as an additional criterion without actually defining it: could we create 60 votes per month under 2 different topics?)
 * The Proposal #2 is about a suggested more feasible limit on the number of votes created by someone. It translates as 5 votes per month, per person.

Schedule:
 * Vote starts: 00:00, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23:59, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Vote created: --Daniel Carrero (talk) 07:55, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Beer parlour/2016/October
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Beer parlour/2016/October
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Beer parlour/2016/November
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2016-11/Voting limits

Support

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:57, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  --WikiTiki89 17:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 4)  - TheDaveRoss 20:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 5)  -Xbony2 (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 6)  - Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 7)  —  Salt  marsh . 17:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 8) . Remove the rule: it does not do anything useful. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 9)  - DonnanZ (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 10)  — Eru·tuon 03:06, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * 11)  — I.S.M.E.T.A. 11:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Oppose
. We don't need more bureaucracy for its own sake. When has creating too many votes been a problem recently except with Daniel, who has clearly learned his lesson? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * : You are opposing the idea of removing a useless rule, and saying: "We don't need more bureaucracy for its own sake." Are you sure? --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:13, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for correcting me. I should've read it more carefully. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's allright. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * We need more limitation, not less, on these proposals. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 18:40, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Not eligible to vote per Voting policy. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  DonnanZ (talk) 13:20, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  Equinox ◑ 13:23, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  I will support anything which discourages the use of votes as a way of deciding issues. — ObſequiousNewt — Geſpꝛaͤch — Beÿtraͤge 00:25, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Continual votes are a method of wearing down opposition. We can't have this. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 18:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Not eligible to vote per Voting policy. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * 1)  — I.S.M.E.T.A. 11:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:57, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  --WikiTiki89 17:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 4)  - TheDaveRoss 20:41, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 5)  -Xbony2 (talk) 22:15, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 6)  — Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:41, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 7)  There is such a thing as too many votes but I don't think we need the proposed rule of max 1 new vote per person and week. My rule of thumb is that there should never be more than 10 votes currently running, but even that should not be made into a ridig rule. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Decision
Withdrawn --Daniel Carrero (talk) 01:07, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The vote was edited and re-scheduled to start, per the talk page. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 13:11, 13 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Proposal 1 passed: 11-0-0 (100%-0%).
 * Proposal 2 failed: 4-7-0 (36.3%-63.7%).

I edited WT:VP accordingly. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 16:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)