Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2020-06/Changes to usage of Template:also

Changes to usage of Template:also

 * Proposal: Always use Appendix:Variation of "[word]" as the argument of Template:also, as opposed to only using it when there are many variations.
 * Rationale: This will make it easier for editors to add variations, as instead of having to go around all the pages adding the variations, there will simply be one obvious page that can be linked to. To add a new variation, it must only be added on that page, as opposed to all the pages. There will also be more consistency regarding the order of the variations.

Schedule:
 * Vote starts: 00:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23:59, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Vote created: Numberguy6 (talk) 17:47, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2020-06/Changes to usage of Template:also

Support

 * 1)  Numberguy6 (talk) 01:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) . Terrible idea with no prior discussion. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 01:43, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  First, it would be  . Second, it would require someone to write a bunch of variations appendices that don't exist yet. Third, it would be absurd to write such appendices with only two or three entries, such as Appendix:Variations of "dictionary" that would contain only dictionary and Dictionary. —Mahāgaja · talk 05:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Per Mahāgaja and Μετάknowledge. I may have approved of some formal regulation around this template however—especially regarding upper limits of terms and specific ordering. Prior discussion is very important. İʟᴀᴡᴀ–Kᴀᴛᴀᴋᴀ (talk) (edits) 13:49, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) .  I can see the use of trying to simplify and/or standardize the variations of words and the process by which they are added, but I don't think this will help. --Uisleach (talk) 13:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 6)  per all of the above. Imetsia (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 7)  ummm. new phone, who dis? --  19:21, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 8) . A bad idea where there are only two or three variants. DonnanZ (talk) 09:39, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 9) . To be fair, Template:also forms can be annoying to constantly update every time you create a new entry. What we need is constant updating of every page on the wiki with an active bot, as is done with the anagrams. Not sure of the status of that right now, but I think there was a user working on botting this a couple years back. The proposed method for dealing with this though is not good (and as mentioned on the vote talk page, this vote is premature). Not only are the points made above by the other users correct as far as editing concerns, but this will also be bad for readers, especially ones with slow Internet connections, as they will have to navigate to an entirely new page just to navigate to what entry they want. The variations in appendix pages are necessary when there will be too much clutter on individual mainspace pages, but having one for dictionary and Dictionary for example would be absurd, from an editor's and reader's perspective. PseudoSkull (talk) 08:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If I find that a pre-existing page prevents me from creating a new page I have no hesitation in using also so that I can create the new page. DonnanZ (talk) 09:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) * per PseudoSkull's point about usability and convenience, as well as support for a bot. --Uisleach (talk) 23:12, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the agreement there, but I had to strike that as you can't vote oppose twice. PseudoSkull (talk) 06:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oops--sorry about that, somehow had overlooked that I already voted--that was totally unintentional. --Uisleach (talk) 20:27, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  I don’t create a Thesaurus page for  when there is only one synonym either. Fay Freak (talk) 22:40, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  Per Mahagaja's points 2 & 3, PseudoSkull's comment on readability and FayFreak's pithy analogy. ←₰-→  Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  16:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I always encourage change, but this just doesn't seem productive to me. --Robbie SWE (talk) 10:03, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Decision
Failed --Kriss Barnes (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)