Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2010-06/User:EncycloPetey for desysopping

User:EncycloPetey for desysopping

 * Nomination: I hereby nominate for desysopping. He's consistently revert community consensus, deleting categories because of his own personal opinion. We'd happily block an non-sysop with an expiry time of infinitive for this sort of thing, so why do bureaucrats have lower standards than IPs and non-sysops. Note, I hope he continues to edit here. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Vote starts: 12 June 2010
 * Vote ends: 23:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC) closed early

Support

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support  and lifetime block -- Prince Kassad 22:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear — are you joking, or serious? —Ruakh TALK 23:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I was thinking the same thing. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You sound as if this was a totally strange and/or unexpected vote. -- Prince Kassad 09:49, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think this diff will explain. --EncycloPetey 14:45, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Mglovesfun (talk) 22:13, 12 June 2010 (UTC) no block.

Oppose

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  Conrad.Irwin 22:14, 12 June 2010 (UTC) We have lots of grumpy admins, picking on one is unfair; particularly over such an irrelevant issue. (I'm secretly hoping this vote is a joke, but you never can be too careful)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 22:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC) EP is a long-time contributor with a great depth and breadth of experience. Shows good judgement and restraint in the vast majority of situations I've seen him in. Also, is one of the few admins who actually does administrative work, and thus actually needs the tools (as opposed to say, me, who would probably not notice I was missing them). Finally, the preamble to this vote shows no evidence of malpractice in any way. In fact it cites no evidence of any kind, on any issue. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 22:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose, obviously. I'm not aware of the consensus you describe, and even if it does exist, there's no reason to think that EP is aware of it, either. We don't permablock editors for violating consensi they're not aware of. So far, the only evidence I've seen is your claims that there's a consensus; and while I'd normally expect a new editor to trust an established editor's claims of existing consensus (though we have had a few sysops in the past who were prone to asserting non-existent consensi), it's not reasonable to require EP to trust your claims in this regard. Better evidence, please! —Ruakh TALK 23:26, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Strongly Oppose.  Amongst other things, this vote is ridiculous and started by a user who is obviously thus far biased against EncycloPetey, who is one of the overall best administrators we have.  Additionally, prior to this vote I have seen very little discussion of the matter, but really.  Discussion?  Where is it?  In the larger picture, we don't have an established procedure or such for desysopping -- and if we ever have them I hope we have more of an idea of what we're doing than to let such nonsensical and petty arguments as these make the decisions. --Neskaya … gawonisgv? 06:19, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  < class="latinx">Ƿidsiþ 07:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC) Er...no.
 * 6) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  —Stephen 12:32, 13 June 2010 (UTC) Frivolous.
 * 7) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  Ivan Štambuk 15:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC) The term numeral is preferable to number because it's much less ambiguous, especially in grammar terminology where number normally denotes plurality (singular, plural..). Colloquial usages of number are irrelevant because they don't refer to the part of speech, but rather to "the amount of something". We should strive for precision and clarity wherever possible. English language is lucky that there are distinct terms for number and numeral, many other languages aren't. --Ivan Štambuk 15:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd much rather be using the German terms Zahl and Ziffer. These are not at all ambiguous unlike number and numeral. -- Prince Kassad 15:30, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * They are not English either. Plus, Ziffer cannot refer to PoS AFAIK, and is thus not analogical to English numeral in grammatical sense. --Ivan Štambuk 15:34, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  Yair rand (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose  —Internoob (Disc•Cont) 23:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose per Atelaes and Ruakh. ---Dan Polansky 08:13, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose    AugPi 08:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain  lulzy, but I can't take this seriously enough to even cast an oppose vote =P — [&#32;R·I·C&#32;] opiaterein — 14:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Decision

 * Vote fails. Right now it's losing 2–11–1; clearly there's no point letting this float on the votes page for >2 weeks. (Normally I'd say that input is welcome, whether or not it has a chance of swaying anything; but this is an ad hominem vote, so there are better, less divisive ways for people to give input.) —Ruakh TALK 13:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)