Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2014-05/User:Wyang for admin

User:Wyang for admin

 * Nomination: I hereby nominate as a local English Wiktionary Administrator. He is conversant in various East Asian and other languages, is a very conscientious and productive editor, has skills and passions. Wyang is a responsible editor and has made a lot of achievements. He has the right attitude to editing and communicating, is approachable and I am convinced that he would make a good administrator.
 * Vote starts: as soon as the nomination is accepted
 * Vote ends: 23:59, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Vote created: --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 06:40, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Acceptance: I accept Anatoli's nomination with gratitude.
 * Languages: zh (cmn-4, yue-3, wu-3, cdo-3, nan-2), en-4, ko-3, ja-3, vi-3, bo-2, de-2, my-1, fr-1, es-1
 * Timezone: UTC+10 in winter, UTC+11 in summer

Support

 * 1)  --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 06:40, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 2)  -- Wyang has been very helpful in expanding and refining our Chinese and Korean coverage, and by extension, has been helping with our Japanese etymologies as well.  And that's not even going into the templates, entry autocreation scripts, and Lua modules.  Wholehearted support.  &#8209;&#8209; Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 07:25, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 3)  On the condition that I get de-sysoped and made a bureaucrat instead. One admin in exchange for another? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 07:57, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) . Sure. It's not like adminship involves any driving. --Vahag (talk) 08:14, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support —Stephen (Talk) 07:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) . — Ungoliant (falai) 16:33, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 7)  He has become a much better team player over the years and I think he will make a good admin should he choose to accept the responsibilities that go with it. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 03:41, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 8)  We may have some disagreement, but he's a capable and valued editor who participates in the community. DAVilla 04:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 9)  Wyang has contributed immensely here, and would be an even greater asset as admin. Strongly support. ---&#62; Tooironic (talk) 06:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 10)  --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:15, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose Not a bad person, but still too inexperienced in my opinion. See how  broke just a while ago. -- Liliana • 09:39, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing but all you had to do is let Wyang know. He always responds. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 10:34, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Blue Glass Arrow.svg|15px]] Looking at the history for, I note that only 16 hours had passed between Wyang's change and Liliana's undoing of said change. She also commented, breaking a template is bad and you should feel bad.  That seems a little rich given the upheaval we've been seeing these past several months in many different quarters, as other users rework various parts of the EN WT template infrastructure.  And those users have been around for much longer than Wyang...  &#8209;&#8209; Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 06:07, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
 * That's right and leaving hateful or shaming remarks and edit summaries cause people to have some feelings other than gratitude, even if an edit is helpful and good, otherwise. I've been verbally abused and shamed a couple of times by the above voter, so it seems like it's his/her style (still not sure about the gender, sorry). --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 03:48, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure about the gender? I'm just going to assume that it's revenge because I know CodeCat's real gender which seems to make everyone else here fed up, as if I know too much or something. Those kinds of methods were last used in Stalinist times... -- Liliana • 07:55, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not a revenge, honestly. I never misgender people deliberately. And I said sorry for not knowing. You were "Prince Kassad" once, isn't that a male name? Someone asked you about your gender, you didn't reply, I never asked you and I don't know if this can be seen on a user account. Of course, I know that "Liliana" is a female name - I have a Russian friend called Liliana but this could be your family account or just your favourite name. I have no idea. You already accused me of Stalin methods before on Komi merge discussion, which was uncalled for. You take me for someone else. I assume this is your method of communicating with someone you dislike (or you revenge for long-forgotten romaji drama - back then I apologized for assuming that you lied) or it is your style as I seriously don't know the source of your hate and your behaviour. Maybe when you see my Russian or Chinese edit you think of Putin, Stalin, Mao and communism? When I asked you to stop, you just trolled away. Well, life is too short to worry about nasty or paranoic people but it's worth mentioning to others that when you say nasty things, you're prone to this. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 08:26, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't have any specific hate towards anyone (well, with one exception that I'd rather not go into detail on; you probably know anyway), and if I come across as such I'm sorry. I'm just not happy about the direction Wiktionary has taken lately and my frustration might show here and there. -- Liliana • 09:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose: Personal attack 1 (in edit summary), Personal attack 2 (has been RevDeled), 3RR violation, Block log. --Symplectionary (talk) 12:29, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * We don't know the whole story there. There are various fights on Wikipedia, unrelated to the work we do here. For reference. This is the above editor's 2nd ever edit since 2011 (the first one was on a talk page). Besides, this is English Wiktionary, not Chinese Wikipedia. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:41, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Vote struck as ineligible per policy. — Keφr 12:43, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Blue Glass Arrow.svg|15px]] To save others the trouble of clicking through, it's worth noting here that all of those links show events that 1) happened in the first half of 2010, four years ago by now (during which time a lot can change), and 2) are all on the Chinese Wikipedia. &#8209;&#8209; Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 16:38, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * He is a highly intelligent, but notoriously self-obsessed editor at zh.wp ("Emperor of Chinese Wikipedia") who has been stalking me for about eight years. Wyang (talk) 22:16, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * To make it explicit: on w:zh:User:Symplectopedia page, it says "Symplectopedia, the Emperor of Chinese Wikipedia". --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain I am not familiar enough with Wyang to allow me to make an informed vote yet, but I have a bit of concern.  Wyang, could you please explain how and for what purposes you have used different accounts (if any) on English Wiktionary?  In particular, is  an alternative account of yours? Wyang's account on Chinese Wikipedia is linked to Wjcd on Chinese Wiktionary, which makes me to believe that Wjcd here is owned by Wyang, too.  I am fine with putting what happens elsewhere aside, but how one uses different accounts (again, if any) on English Wiktionary would be relevant, I suppose. Whym (talk) 05:18, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I use the name 'Wjcd' at the Chinese Wiktionary, and am a bureaucrat there. I have used a number of accounts since I first edited at Wikimedia projects - chronologically, zh:w:User:Puppy8800, zh:w:User:Choij, zh:w:User:Wyang, zh:User:Wjcd (en), and User:Hbrug. The use of different accounts is a consequence of the stalking event mentioned above. Specifically, zh:User:Symplectopedia (also zh:User:Maxwell's demon, zh:User:PV=nRT) targeted the articles I have edited and mass-reverted them at times (zh:w:User talk:Choij/1, zh:w:User talk:Choij); he also my identity, and pasted my personal information at several places in Wikipedia. This caused me to quit editing under that username and switch to zh:User:Wyang after a few months. He recognised me from the first few edits of that account, and switched his target to that account since (zh:User talk:Wyang). I then basically stopped participating at zh.wp and moved to the Chinese Wiktionary, under the name User:Wjcd, which also got recognised by him (zh:User talk:Wjcd). Wyang (talk) 05:43, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Wyang, thank you for being transparent about on your accounts on this wiki as well as other sister projects. I find it reasonable and have no hope to be persisting on this matter further. As Eiríkr Útlendi mentioned above, most of the drama, if any, has nothing to do with what we do on English Wiktionary now. Whym (talk) 08:27, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Decision

 * Passes, 10-1-1. Need a bureaucrat.
 * Done. —Stephen (Talk) 22:15, 17 May 2014 (UTC)