Wiktionary talk:Main Page/Archive 7

nn past 10,000
The Nynorsk Wiktionary has had more than 10,000 content pages for a while now. Njardarlogar (talk) 17:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:36, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Links to other Wiktionaries
Do we need a list of all Wiktionaries on the Main Page? Do we need it twice? Currently, the list takes 50% of the space on the Main Page (http://i50.tinypic.com/2ztczme.png). Could we remove interwikis from here? I think we should keep only 10,000+ wiktionaries and remove the rest. What do you think? Many of these wiktionaries with ~1,000 or less are abandoned. We could keep the biggest and add a link to the full list. Look for example on German or French's Main Page, they look much better than ours.

Cound't we replace those 'Wiktionaries in other languages' with, e.g., links to languages' categories or add more languages from en.wikt to the Main Page? I think it will be much more useful to add the most popular languages on ENGLISH WIKTIONARY, not the biggest Wikitonaries. Maro 00:12, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I definitely agree, the interwiki links are a bit excessive. Making the main page more useful to our users is always good. 01:16, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hard to say. What I can say, in general, is that I think our main page is, in general, better than fr.wikt, de.wikt, and most of the others I've seen. But that is essentially personal opinion, although I have reasons for it. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 14:02, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Already being better than others is no excuse to stop improving. --WikiTiki89 (talk) 14:22, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Replacing the Wiktionaries in Other Languages section with our most popular languages sounds great. — Ungoliant (Falai) 15:49, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Main page error?
"Wiktionary is run by the Wikimedia Foundation". Hosted by not run by, surely, per the wording on all the Wikipedia projects. Run by would imply the WMF had responsibility for the content, I think. --BozMo (talk) 09:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, as far as I know, they do have final responsibility. That doesn't mean that they write or own the content though, but that's kind of implicit in being a wiki. 11:06, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree that "hosted by" would be preferable. --Yair rand (talk) 11:23, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * +1 --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 13:46, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The Foundation supports the Wikimedia projects in various ways, not merely by providing web hosting. Rather than getting into all that, it's probably better to simply say "Wiktionary is a project of the Wikimedia Foundation" or something along those lines. Dominic·t 15:05, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, how is the Wikimedia Foundation supporting Wiktionary besides providing hosting? --MZMcBride (talk) 04:25, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Among other things, by providing for the legal defense, perhaps? :) Philippe (WMF) (talk) 09:30, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * &lt;bites tongue&gt; I hate being polite. - Amgine/t&middot;e 04:31, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You won't find me arguing that WMF's support for Wiktionary is adequate, but it's still more than just a host. It owns the Wiktionary trademark, is legally responsible for the project and employs our designated agent, it develops software which is deployed on Wiktionary (whether or not that was the primary intended user), and so on. In any case, whether or not it provides any support at all doesn't really have much bearing on the validity of whether Wiktionary is a project of the Wikimedia Foundation, since that is a simple statement of fact, not an action. Dominic·t 04:34, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with Dominic. "Is hosted by" makes it sound like Wiktionary and WMF are two separate entities, which we're not. Wiktionary is part of WMF, and the Wiktionary community is part of the greater WMF community. —Ruakh TALK 14:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Ku.wikti 100 000+ articles
http://ku.wiktionary.org/wiki/Destp%C3%AAk

BR

--Ferhengvan (talk) 13:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ by --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:13, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Sinhalese Wiktionary past 1,000 articles?
Does it have over 1,000 articles now? I think it has. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 13:51, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It appears to have 1065. I've moved the Sinhalese Wiktionary link to the 1000+ section. --Yair rand (talk) 14:07, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

"Wiktionaries in other languages" section needs rephrasing?
The main page currently reads:

"This is the English Wiktionary: For example, see (a French word defined in English). In order to find a French definition of that word, you would visit the equivalent page in the French Wiktionary."

IMO that first sentence does not actually make sense (the colon is making too big a "leap" in meaning, and should really be replaced by a clause). So, I would suggest that this be changed to:

"This is the English Wiktionary, and so defines foreign words in English. For example, see the entry for the French word . In order to find a French definition of that word, you would have to visit the equivalent page in the French Wiktionary."

 It Is Me Here  t /  c  23:00, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree, that is an improvement. 22:58, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Drop "foreign", because the English Wiktionary also defines English words ;-) and then it looks good. - -sche (discuss) 23:46, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It is an improvement. However, I think instead of dropping "foreign words", we should replace it with "words in both English and foreign languages" for utmost clarity. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Then the full sentence would be: "This is the English Wiktionary, and so defines words in both English and foreign languages in English." That's actually a bit hard to parse: "in English" appears twice, and "foreign languages in English" is infelicitous. The French Wiktionary describes itself as a "dictionnaire francophone", perhaps we could say:

"This is the English-language Wiktionary, where words from all languages are defined in English. For [an] example, see the entry for the French word . [In order] to find a French definition of that word [instead], visit the equivalent page in the French Wiktionary."
 * Parts in brackets are optional. (Well, you could decide you like something else better, so the whole thing is optional, but hopefully you know what I mean.) - -sche (discuss) 05:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point. Upon removing the bracketed bits, I like your version. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 16:55, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, so shall we go with Metaknowledge's suggestion?  It Is Me Here  t /  c  15:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've made the change. - -sche (discuss) 16:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

or (Oriya or Odia) +100 entries
According to Omniglot's page on the Odia language, I think it has 400 entries. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 01:50, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The Oriya Wiktionary has [//or.wiktionary.org/wiki/ବିଶେଷ:ଗଣନା?uselang=en 133] pages. Added to the 100+ section. --Yair rand (talk) 08:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, my bad. I thought their statistics page was red linked. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 08:53, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Pashto wiktionary reached 10000 entries
Pashto wiktionary has already reached over 10000 enteries please add it to the list of languages with over 10000 entries in the Main Page.

--Khangul (talk) 02:05, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 02:07, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

pnb +5000
Is it okay to put that Wiktionary in the +one thousand articles section? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 18:32, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It already is. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 18:40, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

iw cy
Please add a a link to cy: Wiciadur. Diolch. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 18:51, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

jv.wikt
Javanese Wiktionary has reached 40.000 entries. Thanks. Bennylin (talk) 11:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 18:51, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

et +100,000
Estonian Wiktionary has over 100 000 entries. --Metsavend (talk) 10:13, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. --Yair rand (talk) 17:52, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Main Page capitalisation
Is there a particular reason why capitalisation differs for the "Word of the day" and "Foreign Word of the Day" headers? Should be one or the other—"Foreign word of the day" is preferable in my opinion. IgnorantArmies (talk) 16:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't care, but if any admin wants to change it... —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 23:01, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I also don’t mind. — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:39, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Meh. It's not a major issue, but one probably should be changed to match the other. I don't really care which one gets changed, but the other section headings on the page are all in sentence case ("Wiktionary, the free dictionary", "Behind the scenes", "Wiktionaries in other languages"), so I guess it's FWOTD that should be decapitalised. Note also "Discussion rooms" but "Community Portal"... - -sche (discuss) 05:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata
Can we get Wikidata added to the list of Wikimedia projects? FrigidNinja (talk) 23:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. — Ungoliant (Falai) 23:30, 23 March 2013 (UTC)