Wiktionary talk:Project-Wanted Articles

Regarding the question: Should we be prioritizing common words before obscure ones? I personally vote "YES." I threw entries into this list from Special:Wantedpages starting from the end - the "most linked" undefined articles. The number of times a word is linked seems synonymous with it's priority, at least for this quick-list. I'm not at all sure how often Special:Wantedpages is updated - it looks like a weekly automatic run. That's why rush is still listed on it.


 * Absolutely. This list is specifically and only for terms linked many times within Wiktionary yet lacking definitions. &mdash; Hippietrail 01:01, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Anyone like the idea of adding one or two foreign language words? Or even a whole mess of them, starting from #2000 linked 383 times? (What is that, Japanese for can?) --Connel MacKenzie 00:26, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * We already have a few such pages - they are largely neglected however. I don't think it's time to start pushing these in highly visible places like these templated lists until the English dictionary is considered well fleshed out. After that it will become a much higher priority to get more foreign words and translations in. &mdash; Hippietrail 01:01, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * OK. I just figured one Japanese, one Russian word being visible might encourage more foreign input.  C'est la vie!  --Connel MacKenzie 01:07, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Thinking about it since my last reply, you might have a good point. Maybe if we give one line to words in various languages which are recognizable enough that passing strangers might be able to add them. But how to choose such words so that they won't just sit and gather dust...? &mdash; Hippietrail 02:01, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * I was thinking more of letting just one word work it's way onto the list. If it drifts all the way to the left and no one touches it, then it goes round-robbin to the end of the queue.  Then drop in one from a different language.  If a Japanese word gets defined in two seconds flat, then try and queue up a bunch.  If a Russian name slides by, then avoid Russian for a week or two.  My biggest problem is that I'm so American, I usually can't tell what language a given foriegn term is in.  Most of the time they appear as either "??", "???" or "????" on my browser.


 * Looks like Jun-Dai queued up oriental on this list...I can't think of anyone better qualified than he, to throw a definition at it. Since he took it from the list out of order...A-Ha!  It is a conspiracy to pour more racist fuel on the fire of the flame-war thread on anti-semitism!.  OK, maybe not, but the timing is rather odd.  Maybe he innocently wants to see how someone else would word it.  Or perhaps even not trusting himself to be NPOV?  I still think the timing is odd.  He is a very bright guy.  Hmmmm.  I think I'd better just ask him on his talk page.


 * Back on topic, I found the Wanted list to be really nice, as the words there are linked by lots of different things; I would characterise them as fairly common words. To select appropriate foriegn words, I'd just start from entry #2000 and work my way backwards as I did for English words.  Taking the time to research them individually, then deciding which ones are "easy" would be very time consuming.  --Connel MacKenzie 14:10, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 *  As I mentioned to Connel, I didn't really put it "out of order" (except in the strictest sense), since the words that I put it before were ones that I had just added myself. I am curious to see what other people come up with, though mostly it's just a mechanism to ensure that I get around to thinking and possibly (likely) writing a definition of the word.  Since I have been caught red-handed, however, I think I will go ahead and write the damn thing. 


 * Thank you.
 * Minor clarification: When I said out of order, I didn't mean you put it in this list in the wrong place in the queue, I meant it is listed as being linked only 15 times, while there are still a lot that are 16, 17, 18, 19 times linked that haven't made it onto the list at all yet. (A hundred or so?  200?)
 * The lesson *I* need to learn from this, is that I need to let wiki alone to do its magical thing. My suggestion was adapted onto the recent changes page - DUH - that means it is not *mine*.  (Not that it ever was, once it had been posted here on wiktionary.)  Whatever conventions evolve for populating this page are not under my control.  I like the idea of taking the next most-linked word from the tail end of the most-linked-undefined list, but that is only my suggestion.
 * --Connel MacKenzie 22:09, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 *  Ah. I see.  Yeah, I felt like as long as it was on that end of the list (i.e., in the last--or first, depending on how you think about it--500) it was fair game.  Initially, however, I entered in a bunch of words with 8 or so links, since I didn't realize the list was, er, little-endian. 


 * Right, the Wantedpages list goes to 2000. And when entries come from towards the end of that list, they get appended onto the end of this list.  Seems like a simple, yet fair, method to me.  --Connel MacKenzie 05:11, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I've noticed that since this template has been worldly accessable, it's been about 1/2 vandalism. That's a bit higher than most pages, I'd guess. I'd even guess it is close to fuck in terms of vandalism to content ratio. --Connel MacKenzie 05:11, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)