Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2020-05/Sign language entry names

SignWriting
SignWriting requires some special consideration. It is a major writing system for sign languages, and to the best of my knowledge the only widespread phonemic writing system in use for sign languages. Other systems are usually logographic (with the graphemes based on glosses from the local national language), and of course sign is often transcribed in video or series of pictures (which can’t really be considered a writing system).

Its characters were added to Unicode a few years ago, but apparently the block is not enough for practical use since it doesn’t encode the proper positioning of the characters. This means that it is not currently feasible to use SignWriting written with the Sutton SignWriting block as page titles.

An option is to use ’s Formal SignWriting standard as page titles and (or similar) to convert the visible title to SignWriting.

I think there already exists a MediaWiki plugin that displays SignWriting from Formal SignWriting, similar to the one that generates Egyptian hieroglyphs. The problem would be inputting signs; having to type Formal SignWriting would make its use as impractical as that of the SLEN system. Perhaps there could be a special page with a virtual keyboard. — Ungoliant (falai) 01:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The SignWriting keyboard is available on Incubator for the ASL Wikipedia and other sign languages. The same could be used here. If you search for the Rand SignWriting Keyboard, you can find references, presentations, and the like.  Online demo
 * You may also be interested in the grant submitted to Wikimedia for a two-dimensional font and full Unicode. -Slevinski (talk) 19:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * If you like video and would like to see what SignWriting is up to, you can check out the SignWriting Stream on YouTube. I posted the sixth episode today. -Slevinski (talk) 20:00, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Third option
What I was actually proposing as a compromise solution was a third option: SLEN would always be the default for all sign languages, but soft redirects from other transcription systems would be allowed. Can I add that option to this vote? --Numberguy6 (talk) 01:36, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that this should be Option 2 and what is now Option 2 should be Option 3. --Numberguy6 (talk) 02:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Current redirects using Sutton SignWriting
Related to option 3 ("with soft redirects allowed from other major transcription systems that are used.") and option 4 ("Use Sutton SignWriting as the default transcription system for all sign languages."): J3133 (talk) 23:13, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 𝣵 (to a page that does not exist)
 * 𝠀 (with the "character info" template on the page)
 * 𝠞𝪁𝧨

Tallying of votes
Currently, Option 2 has 2 support and 0 oppose, while option 3 has 7 support and 1 oppose. If the vote ended now, which one would we choose? Option 2 has a larger proportion, while Option 1 has a larger absolute difference. --Numberguy6 (talk) 23:02, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

RFM discussion: May–July 2020

 * See Talk:CAVALO^LISTRA.