shoot the bull

Verb

 * 1)  To chinwag; to talk idly.
 * 2) * 1976-1977, Lou Sullivan, personal diary, quoted in 2019, Ellis Martin, Zach Ozma (editors), We Both Laughed In Pleasure
 * I didn't get what this group therapy was all about, it seemed to me it was just a bunch of people shooting the bull.
 * I didn't get what this group therapy was all about, it seemed to me it was just a bunch of people shooting the bull.